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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Tom,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>You can say that any pilot project is pricey. If the intent is proof of concept then the costs won’t represent a commercial production facility. Even the first few plants will require some subsidy to compete with fossil fuels so it really depends on the long term vision of the public funding agencies. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>We have already seen some investors back out of a couple of biomass projects because of low cost shale gas. They were probably just in it to develop the project and would leave anyway. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Tom Miles<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> linvent@aol.com [mailto:linvent@aol.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 05, 2014 10:35 AM<br><b>To:</b> gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org; erin@trmiles.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gasification] Karlsruhe Institute of Technology bioliq® pilot project<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Rather pricey system for 1 ton/day yield. It only proves that with enough money, any process can be made to work technically, but economically? There are much less expensive ways to do this. Wonder if there will be a #2 system. Going to get rough to put these deals together with the dropping crude oil pricing. </span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Leland T. "Tom" Taylor<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Thermogenics Inc. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Erin Rasmussen <<a href="mailto:erin@trmiles.com">erin@trmiles.com</a>><br>To: 'Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification' <<a href="mailto:gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org">gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>><br>Sent: Thu, Dec 4, 2014 12:35 pm<br>Subject: [Gasification] Karlsruhe Institute of Technology bioliq® pilot project<o:p></o:p></p><div id="AOLMsgPart_2_4a03f28a-5682-4878-b2ce-3204445c3e52"><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>This is a nice write-up of the Bioliq biomass to fuel project:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.biologynews.net/archives/2014/12/01/bioliq_complete_process_chain_is_running.html" target="_blank">http://www.biologynews.net/archives/2014/12/01/bioliq_complete_process_chain_is_running.html</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'>more from the Karlsuher Institut für Technologie web page:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.kit.edu/kit/15985.php" target="_blank">http://www.kit.edu/kit/15985.php</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>And the bioliq project web site <a href="http://www.bioliq.de/" target="_blank">http://www.bioliq.de</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Erin Rasmussen<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>TR Miles Technical Consultants Inc. <a href="http://www.trmiles.com/" target="_blank">http://www.trmiles.com/</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>and BioEnergy Discussion Lists <a href="http://www.bioenergylists.org/" target="_blank">http://www.bioenergylists.org/</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="mailto:erin@trmiles.com">erin@trmiles.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><div id="AOLMsgPart_3_4a03f28a-5682-4878-b2ce-3204445c3e52"><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>_______________________________________________ Gasification mailing list to Send a Message to the list, use the email address <a href="mailto:Gasification@bioenergylists.org">Gasification@bioenergylists.org</a> to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page <a href="http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org</a> for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site: <a href="http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/" target="_blank">http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/</a> </span></tt><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre></div></div></body></html>