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This must be a troll from under the Nuclear bridge. I live near the first Uranium mines, which are still leaking and producing mutants. By the time they, and all the other hazards have been cleaned up, there is likely to be no net gain at all. The potential of nuclear is tiny without re-processing, which has never worked. It is dwarfed not only by wind, but by hydrothermal vents, the smallest of which puts out the power of several big nukes. The only thing nukes are good for is producing bomb material and corruption in politics. Just try to get one insured if you don't believe me.<div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Bob Stuart</div><div><br><div><div>On 22-Jan-15, at 8:49 AM, Kermit Schlansker wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman"> </font><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; "><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman"><span> </span>Ideas on Sustainability </font></font></font></div><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman"> </font><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman"> </font></p><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman"> </font><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; "><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman"><span> </span><span> </span>We have no right to dismiss Global Warming. The consequences are so dire that if the probability of warming occurring were only .1% we still would have to act. Furthermore the question really is whether we have to conserve or not. As the years go by we will run out of many resources including fossil fuels and it is imperative that we conserve them. Still another reason is that by reducing consumption we can reduce the basic cost of living and that will be essential at a time where poverty is everywhere. </font></font></font></div><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman"> </font><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; "><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman"><span> </span>It is imperative that we build more nuclear plants because that is the only source of energy large enough to save us from total despair. Solar, biomass and wind can never produce enough to satisfy our needs. However energy sources are only competitive in terms of priority and price. We need all of them. Some of them are much easier to finance than nuclear and we must proceed on all fronts. We must develop all types of energy conservation and alternate energy production in order to keep the cost and number of nuclear plants down to a manageable level.</font></font></font></div><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman"> </font><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; "><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman"><span> </span>Geometry is the best tool for conserving energy. Cities must be designed a square mile at a time. That square mile should be packed with apartment houses, factories, multi-purpose buildings, a department store, and anything else that is needed for every day life. Towns should be so designed that “walking to work will save the earth” The construction of single family houses should be stopped. The first step is to stop subsidizing them in any way. Apartments will save large amounts of heating energy and the compactness they can create will greatly reduce transportation energy. City and county governments must assist in the formation of car pools. Apartments are the only way of saving energy that costs nothing because we need a place to live anyhow. </font></font></font></div><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman"> </font><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; "><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman"><span> </span>Energy saving devices such as cogeneration, comanufacturing, combustion driven heat pumps, and solar mirrors for both power generation and heating must be developed. Biomass gasifying and biodigestion must be experimented with. Large amounts of biomass including fruit trees must be planted. Cities must plant parks and streets with edible plants. It is essential that sewage be biodigested along with other biomass and used to make fertilizer, fuel gas, and clean water The digestion residues can initially be used for fertilizing energy crops in order to avoid pollution problems</font></font></font></div><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman"> </font><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; "><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman"><span> </span>There should be large farms with apartment houses on them rather than single family houses that destroy both cropland and wilderness. Experimental farming should develop both energy and food crops. Farm apartment buildings are ideal places to experiment with heating, cooling, small windmills, and solar energy. </font></font></font></div><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman"> </font><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; "><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman"><span> </span>It is imperative that city, State, and county governments get involved in initiating large energy projects such as an energy farm or experimental low heat apartments. A universal factory would also be a good project. In order to do this they should work together to start and finance such projects. It is as essential to make it easier for ordinary citizens to form cooperatives and small corporations that would do energy or food projects. There should be a roster in city hall of people that wish to buy stock and help to form such projects.</font></font></font></div><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman"> </font><p style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman"> </font></p><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman"> </font><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0in; "><font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman"><span> </span>Kermit Schlansker<span> </span>PE<span> </span><a href="mailto:kssustain@gmail.com">kssustain@gmail.com</a></font></font></font></div><font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman"> </font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">_______________________________________________</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Gasification mailing list</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">to Send a Message to the list, use the email address</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a href="mailto:Gasification@bioenergylists.org">Gasification@bioenergylists.org</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a href="http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org">http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">for more Gasifiers,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>News and Information see our web site:</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a href="http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org">http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org</a>/</div> </blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>