<p dir="ltr">" Using some of the hot CO + CO 2 exhaust together with steam to provide O + H 2 to provide "FUEL" to the engine The "Sabatier" Reaction occurs during the power stroke of the engine."</p>
<p dir="ltr">When your engine is running on only water where does the CO2 come from?<br></p>
<p dir="ltr">Thanks,<br>
Jeff<br><br><br></p>
<p dir="ltr">______________________________________________<br>
"Once an owner has got used to charcoal gas he will never revert to the more expensive fuels", Geo Bray</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Apr 3, 2015 3:38 PM, <<a href="mailto:GFWHELL@aol.com">GFWHELL@aol.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
<div style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;COLOR:#000000;FONT-SIZE:10pt"><font color="#000000" face="Arial">
<div>The production of methane without the use of organics was solved 100 years
ago by "Sabatier"</div>
<div>A French Nobel prize winner for his contribution to inorganic
chemistry.</div>
<div>He produced the gas using CO 2+ H 2 in a pressure heat reaction in
the presence of metallic catalysts.</div>
<div>If you compare his original work with the contributions made by
various crackpot free energy workers who run IC engines on water, you will
notice the similarities of the process they employ.</div>
<div>The engines used to demonstrate the apparent miracle have a
modified cylinder head with catylist plates</div>
<div>internally attached.</div>
<div>Using some of the hot CO + CO 2 exhaust together with steam to
provide O + H 2 to provide "FUEL" to the engine The "Sabatier" Reaction
occurs during the power stroke of the engine.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>The exhaust manifold of an engine running at peak load produces enough heat
to gasify any hydrogen bearing fuel in an oxygen free enclosure, Thus
utilizing waste heat for the purpose of making fuel.</div>
<div>Forget about building a fuel burning gas converter running on a
negative pressure. use a high compression engine to provide the conditions to
change CO 2 into methane using low grade fuels.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Enter: non organic methane generation: in your seach engine.</div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div>GFWHELL</div>
<div> </div>
<div>
<div>In a message dated 4/2/2015 10:25:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
<a href="mailto:david@meed.ca">david@meed.ca</a> writes:</div>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:blue 2px solid;PADDING-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-LEFT:5px"><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent" color="#000000" face="Arial">Not sure
what is involved in methane, other than filling a tank with<br>manure and
water and waiting (with nose plugs<grin> )<br>- but on a small scale I
wonder what kind of volumes of methane are produced.<br><br>If you take a
typical small 5 kw generator (10hp engine) and figure it<br>has a cylinder
volume around 400cc and it is turning 3600 rpm you<br>would be looking at .4lt
* 1800=720 litres/minute or about 25.4 cfm of<br>gas. Even if you mix it 10:1
with air, you are using 2.5 cfm of<br>methane, 150 cubic feet per hour.
How many minutes will a small<br>digester run that engine? (or how big
does the digester have to be to<br>keep the engine running as long as you want
it.) Flaring a small<br>digester may be impressive, but what is the
actual volume of gas it<br>provides?<br><br>With wood gasification you can
"create" your fuel as fast as you need<br>it simply by sizing the gasifier to
match your engine and pouring in<br>more wood chips or pellets.<br><br>Suggest
spending a few weeks reading through the back postings here,<br>on yahoo
woodgas group and look at drive on wood (although that may be<br>a pay
site). You'll soon figure out who knows what they are talking<br>about,
and you can follow some of them back to their web sites for<br>more
info.<br><br>David <been lurking a while> Meed<br><br><br>On Wed, Apr 1,
2015 at 6:20 PM, hugh <<a href="mailto:hugh@austrop.org.au">hugh@austrop.org.au</a>> wrote:<br>> Just joined
.. and have been interested in gas from wood pyrolysisfor quite<br>> a
while - but also in methane from bio-digestion (small scale) .. and<br>>
haven't been able to find a suitable group<br>><br>> Does anybody have
some suggestions?<br>><br>> Cheers<br>><br>> Hugh<br>><br>>
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Tribulation Tropical Research Station<br>> PMB 5 Cape Tribulation
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