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<br><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>I think I've inadvertently caused some confusion, and I apologize if I have.<br><br></div>I was under the assumption that the original post was about removing CO2 (but incorrectly posted as CO) from a fuel source (CO2 is also produced in coal gas) <br><br></div>Converting CO2 into CO after the fact would yield a more potent fuel (H2 and CO) instead of (H2, CO, and CO2)<br><br></div>However, I might have been wrong about the original post intention, <br><br>Can I ask Dr. Karve to please clarify this, as I now feel I was wrong.....<br><br></div>Greg Manning<br><br> <br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 3:56 AM, Ronald Hongsermeier <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rwhongser@web.de" target="_blank">rwhongser@web.de</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Okay, after reading this three times, it seems your goal is to cull the coal gas of its CO and use that as automotive fuel. I think, if my memory serves me correctly that the energy lost in the various conversions necessary would make this even more energetically disadvantageous than the already c. 10/1 energy density (dry biomass//delivered energy at engine) of biomass <=> liquid gasoline/diesel fuel already is. For driving an internal combustion engine you will lose way too much energy in conversion to make this anything but a financial hole in the ground. That's why automotive gasifiers directly connected to the engine via a filter, cooling and control system were developed in the first place.<br>
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Coal gas as automotive fuel<br>
Agriculture, forests and urban centres in India produce annually<br>
about 1000 million tons of combustible waste biomass. Its energy<br>
content is almost 3 times as much as the petroleum that we currently<br>
use in our country. Samuchit Enviro Tech developed a simple and<br>
nonpolluting technology for converting combustible biomass into<br>
charcoal. When hot charcoal is treated with steam, it produces coal<br>
gas, consisting of a mixture of carbon monoxide and hydrogen. We have<br>
used this reaction in an experimental stove, in which the coal gas is<br>
used as fuel. Can anybody suggest a simple method of removing carbon<br>
monoxide from coal gas?<br>
Yours<br>
A.D.Karve<br>
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Dr. A.D. Karve<br>
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Chairman, Samuchit Enviro Tech Pvt Ltd (<a href="http://www.samuchit.com" target="_blank">www.samuchit.com</a>)<br>
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