<div dir="ltr">Hi Ronaldoo H <div><br></div><div> I also agree with you , the need for co removal can surley involve more chemical process step , hence more energy consumed as you pint out , but the need for this one can not compress , canot store safety problems , once tranformed co into c02 and hydrofgen , the amount of h2 increase to via welknowon water shift low medium temperatuare , then theproduct c02 and h2 has more practical use in ic engines as you corectetly put it .<br>Simple ,simillar water scrubing methane gas may work too to improve , optimize the tecnology ,co.THus co removal can help to store excess energy as little energy demand ,some problem with motor or some problem with fuel too in the context of rural bioenergy production </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">yours truely <br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;font-size:14px;font-family:proxima-nova-1,proxima-nova-2,Tahoma,Helvetica,Verdana,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;border-spacing:0px;color:rgb(51,51,51);line-height:18.200000762939453px"><tbody style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;font-weight:inherit;font-style:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline"><tr style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;font-weight:inherit;font-style:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline"><td style="padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;font-style:inherit;font-size:0px;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;width:auto;height:30px"> </td></tr><tr style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;font-weight:inherit;font-style:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline"><td style="padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;font-style:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;width:auto"><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;font-weight:inherit;font-style:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:0"><a href="http://about.me/pannirbr" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;font-weight:inherit;font-style:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(43,130,173);text-decoration:none;display:inline-block" target="_blank"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;font-weight:inherit;font-style:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;border-spacing:0px"><tbody style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;font-weight:inherit;font-style:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline"><tr style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;font-weight:inherit;font-style:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline"><td align="left" valign="top" style="padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;font-style:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:top;width:107px;line-height:1"><br></td><td style="padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;font-style:inherit;font-size:0px;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;width:10px"><br></td><td align="left" valign="bottom" style="padding:0px 0px 3px;border:0px;outline:0px;font-style:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:bottom;width:auto;line-height:1"><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;font-weight:bold;font-style:inherit;font-size:18px;font-family:proxima-nova-1,Proxima-Nova,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Pannirselvam Pagandai V</div><div style="margin:1px 0px 0px;padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;font-weight:inherit;font-style:inherit;font-size:12px;font-family:proxima-nova-1,Proxima-Nova,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline"><img alt="http://" width="0" height="0" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;font-weight:inherit;font-style:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;display:block;width:0px;height:0px;overflow:hidden">about.me/pannirbr</div></td></tr></tbody></table></a> </div></td></tr><tr style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;font-weight:inherit;font-style:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline"><td style="padding:0px;border:0px;outline:0px;font-style:inherit;font-size:0px;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;width:auto;height:20px"> </td></tr></tbody></table> pannirbr@gmaoil ,UFRN, Natal,Northeast Brazil </div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 6:56 AM, Ronald Hongsermeier <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rwhongser@web.de" target="_blank">rwhongser@web.de</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<br>Okay, after reading this three times, it seems your goal is to cull the coal gas of its CO and use that as automotive fuel. I think, if my memory serves me correctly that the energy lost in the various conversions necessary would make this even more energetically disadvantageous than the already c. 10/1 energy density (dry biomass//delivered energy at engine) of biomass <=> liquid gasoline/diesel fuel already is. For driving an internal combustion engine you will lose way too much energy in conversion to make this anything but a financial hole in the ground. That's why automotive gasifiers directly connected to the engine via a filter, cooling and control system were developed in the first place.<br>
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On 12.04.2015 05:14, Anand Karve wrote:<br>
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Coal gas as automotive fuel<br>
Agriculture, forests and urban centres in India produce annually<br>
about 1000 million tons of combustible waste biomass. Its energy<br>
content is almost 3 times as much as the petroleum that we currently<br>
use in our country. Samuchit Enviro Tech developed a simple and<br>
nonpolluting technology for converting combustible biomass into<br>
charcoal. When hot charcoal is treated with steam, it produces coal<br>
gas, consisting of a mixture of carbon monoxide and hydrogen. We have<br>
used this reaction in an experimental stove, in which the coal gas is<br>
used as fuel. Can anybody suggest a simple method of removing carbon<br>
monoxide from coal gas?<br>
Yours<br>
A.D.Karve<br>
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