<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>Jason, Paul, Michal, and and list.<br><br></div>Jason, the one thing I would like to point out in your closing comments is this ><br><br></div>Even mainstream science can be wrong (eg: tectonic plates moving...) but then again, just try and get them to correct themselves.... THAT is the hard part....<br><br></div>In the case of the Fukashima Disaster... Japan didn't "move" 3 feet, the earth's circumference increased 3 feet.... there IS a difference between the two.<br><br></div>did someone say "Rorschach Test" ? oops, I let the cat out of the bag..........<br><br></div>Greg Manning<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Jason <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:urepedese@gmail.com" target="_blank">urepedese@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Hi Paul,<br><br></div>you are quite correct to point out about reading the fine print. For the same reasons of compromising my intellectual property rights I did not enter the woodstove retrofit challenge. <a href="http://www.pscleanair.org/priorities/woodheating/woodstoveprogram/Pages/WSChallenge.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.pscleanair.org/priorities/woodheating/woodstoveprogram/Pages/WSChallenge.aspx</a><br><br></div><div>This was all explained to them in length, both in email and on the phone. That is quite unfortunate because none of the finalists have combustion improving technology, which is the category my IntensiFire falls into, but simply different ways of dealing with stack emissions. <br><br></div><div>The prize of more testing didn't appear to be helpful in pushing the technology toward certification either, testing is no good without an objective to meet. I still have your counsel in my head Paul regarding testing.<br></div><div><br></div><div>On a more philosophical note I will say that this scenario highlights the weakness of science, considered by many to be the holy grail of civilisation as we know it. A contest, or a stove test, is a bit like a science experiment. The outcome of an experiment can only be as good as the person that designed that experiment. Add in a good dose of genuflection and you have a new established "fact" or "winner" that could in fact be highly questionable. <br></div><br></div>Kind Regards<br><br></div>Jason<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 12:40 AM, Paul Anderson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5">
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To all,<br>
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If you are considering doing this, you should first check the
details about what you are giving up if you should happen to win.
This is akin to the Virgin Earth Challenge. THEY end up with a set
of rights and the proposer gets some money. But if you do not win,
they still have some lingering rights that you might not like.<br>
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Paul<br>
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<div>Hey everyone,<br>
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I thought this might be right up your guys' alley. Innocentive
is a website that organizations can post design challenges with
rewards for proposals that they accept. There was recently a
post for a portable, durable medical waste incinerator. Check
it out if you think you may have a good contribution to make. <br>
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<a href="https://www.innocentive.com/ar/challenge/9933340" target="_blank">https://www.innocentive.com/ar/challenge/9933340</a><br clear="all">
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<div>NOTE: I have nothing to do with this proposal/request.
I'm just forwarding it to you guys. <br>
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<div>Best, <br>
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