<div dir="ltr">Hi Mr. Anderson, (or do you prefer to be called Dr. TLUD?)<div>Thanks for your message, much appreciated!</div><div>At this point we are selling our wet coconut shells to a buyer at the local village market - for a cheap price as we are still figuring out our supply chains of the coconut oil and other products. BUT, coconut shell charcoal is a huge commodity throughout Aceh / Sumatra and all of Indonesia, so I am looking forward to utilizing this byproduct of the VCO biz.</div><div><br></div><div>At the moment our coconut shells are in 2 halves, what is an appropriate size that will allow even burns to the charcoal? Also, the drying may be a bit of an issue as rainy season is often year-round.</div><div><br></div><div>As for TLUD equipment, we are looking for a simple and affordable system that can be constructed/fabricated on-site. Making coconut shell charcoal is done everywhere in the region, but I'm looking to produce charcoal that is better quality than what is found in the open burning pits found alongside the roads. </div><div><br></div><div>Of course we are always thinking about Biochar as an option, ever since I met Tom Miles (aka Professor Biochar), it has been on our radar.</div><div><br></div><div>Carlos, would love to check out your facility. We are still quite far from coconut charcoal briquettes, but it's something we want to explore.</div><div><br></div><div>Gary, if you're ever in Bali, let's catch up for a Bintang. I'm Montana born and raised, but have been traveling to Indonesia since I was born, a result of my mother being Javanese.</div><div><br></div><div>Tom, do you have have some pics of the Japanese cone / kiln? I remember us talking about it while you were here, but I don't think I ever saw fotos.</div><div><br></div><div>We are aiming to move forward with charcoal production asap (yesterday!) so looking forward to any suggestions of equipment specifics and price points.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks guys,</div><div>-Angie</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 8:18 PM, Paul Anderson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Dear Angie, Carlo and Gary,<br>
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The Listservs are here to assist you to make contacts. I have added
the Stoves Listserv and the Biochar Listserv (as well as the
Gasification Listserv that you contacted), for reasons clarified
below. But you cannot post to those lists if you are not a
subscriber.<br>
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A very appropriate way to make char (charcoal) from coconut shell is
with TLUD technology. Much info about it is at my website:
<a href="http://www.drtlud.com" target="_blank">www.drtlud.com</a><br>
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For your size of operation, you should certainly see:<br>
<a href="http://www.sgfe-cambodia.com/" target="_blank">http://www.sgfe-cambodia.com/</a><br>
The website does not focus much on the equipment, but this is a
"must see" operation in Cambodia. I have seen it (in 2013) and
have been very impressed. The head is Carlo Figà Talamanca
<a href="mailto:carloft@gmail.com" target="_blank"><carloft@gmail.com></a> and he is receiving a copy of this
message. I believe that he is not subscribed to this Gasification
Listserv. Very friendly and helpful!!!! Note: The SGFE
project is large, but it should not be considered totally optimal.
I am sure that Carlo is experimenting with improvements. <br>
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Another possible helper for you is Gary Shapiro
<a href="mailto:glshapiro@gmail.com" target="_blank"><glshapiro@gmail.com></a> - American with totally strong
Indonesia ties and knowledge of TLUD gasification and frequently in
Bali.<br>
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You should consider drying and sizing your coconut shells, and
selling it at very reasonable prices to assure that you can sell it
all to low-income households or perhaps schools or orphanages or
military barracks with the requirement that they give back to you
the char that is made in TLUD gasifiers for residential use or for
institutional cooking (larger stoves) OR for some other usage of the
heat, such as for bakeries or drying operations (including your own
needs for drying). Depending on the situation, the CLEAN heat
value can be greater than the value of the charcoal. <br>
<br>
NOTE: TLUDs do NOT produce gases that can be sent into internal
combustion engines. For ICE usage with different gasification
technologies in addition to pyrolysis, you will want the expertise
of the Gasification Listserv members.<br>
<br>
With your charcoal production sorted out, you then have some options
on what to do with the char:<br>
1. Additional processing to obtain activated charcoal for filters,
etc.<br>
2. Sell it as it is in small pieces of charcoal to others who will
consider these options for usage.<br>
3. Crush it and make charcoal "logs, briquettes, pellets, etc."
that have appropriate size for burning.<br>
4. Use the char as biochar, to be put into soil for agricultural
purposes AND as carbon sequestration (which will progressively
become more economically interesting in the near future as you
develop your project.) Do not overlook biochar as one of your
options.<br>
5. Something else that others might suggest.<br>
6. Of course, use two of more of the above uses.<br>
<br>
I am available to assist you further, either via the listservs or
directly at <a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a> My resume is at my website.
<br>
<br>
Dr TLUD <br>
<pre cols="72">Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email: <a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu" target="_blank">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>
Skype: paultlud Phone: <a href="tel:%2B1-309-452-7072" value="+13094527072" target="_blank">+1-309-452-7072</a>
Website: <a href="http://www.drtlud.com" target="_blank">www.drtlud.com</a></pre><div><div class="h5">
<div>On 10/3/2015 9:33 PM, <a href="mailto:acdewi@gmail.com" target="_blank">acdewi@gmail.com</a>
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<div>Hello all - Cheers from Bali!</div>
<div>I am part of a team developing various coconut products
ranging from virgin coconut oil, palm sugar, coconut flour,
etc.etc.</div>
<div>We will be processing around 1 million coconuts this year
and want to effectively, efficiently, and affordably utilize
the coconut shell as a value add product.</div>
<div>Anyone have experience with making coconut charcoal? Or a
step further, making activated carbon with coconut shells?</div>
<div>In the future (year 2) we will be incorporating biomass
gasification using coconut shells, but for the upcoming year
we are looking for solutions to our coconut shell surplus.</div>
<div>Thanks in advance,</div>
<div>-Angie <br>
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