<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div><span></span></div><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div></div><div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Gentlemen, </span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Thanks for the information.</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">The inclusive of humic acids in my endeavours/ plan is very intriguing. Tom Leland has a wealth of information. I felt it was certainly an opportunity that could not be wasted. Thank you Paul for your assistance. I also realize it might of offended some on the gasification list. For that I apologize. It was off topic. </span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Back to gasification. How about that charcoal eh? Capturing the heat from pyrolysis in the high percent efficiency ratio is the holy grail no? I gathered some low grade coal off the beach here in Slave lake. It seems to be local. Could be just a spill from long ago. Was next to an old fish hatchery.  The first firing I measured the ash content. It was pretty high. ~10%. The next is to gasify it (retort) and make coke/charcoal. Anybody want to weigh in and get at thread started,  comments,  advice, anything?  lol all  welcomed. </span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Sincerely </span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">H.</span></div><div><br></div></div><div><br>On Oct 25, 2015, at 7:07 AM, Paul Anderson <<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
  
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    Greg,<br>
    <br>
    You are correct.   I have written to Henri informing him that the
    issues of char production from pyrolyzers/gasfiers are more
    discussed on the Biochar Listserv and the Stoves Listserv, if that
    is his interest.   No reply from him yet.   And he could be reading
    this message now, also.<br>
    <br>
    Paul<br>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Doc  /  Dr TLUD  /  Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD  
Email:  <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>   
Skype: paultlud      Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website:  <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.drtlud.com">www.drtlud.com</a></pre>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/25/2015 7:49 AM, Greg Manning
      wrote:<br>
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      <p dir="ltr">I think the issue here is that for some unknown
        reason, the people involved in biochar, somehow think that
        gasifiers produce lots of char ( like incinerators ) they are
        trying to "side" with people like us for 1) reputation ? 2) a
        waste stream from us (small but there) 3) A complete lack of
        understanding on their part as to what gasifiers really do (
        most probably ).</p>
      <p dir="ltr">Greg Manning</p>
      <div class="gmail_quote">On Oct 23, 2015 8:52 PM, "OSU Conference
        Services" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:conferences@oregonstate.edu">conferences@oregonstate.edu</a>>
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                                                          the Synergy</span></b></em><b><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#009442"></span></b></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#403f42">Over
                                                          the last
                                                          several years,
                                                          researchers
                                                          have helped
                                                          open up many
                                                          promising
                                                          avenues for
                                                          biochar market
                                                          development in
                                                          North America.
                                                          Likewise, many
                                                          entrepreneurs
                                                          and small
                                                          business
                                                          owners have
                                                          made
                                                          investments to
                                                          develop
                                                          commercial
                                                          markets. </span></p>
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                                                          so much
                                                          research being
                                                          published on
                                                          biochar (over
                                                          5000
                                                          publications
                                                          in 2015
                                                          alone!), there
                                                          is a need to
                                                          bring together
                                                          these two
                                                          groups to
                                                          share
                                                          information,
                                                          lessons
                                                          learned, and
                                                          to solicit
                                                          ideas on the
                                                          pathway
                                                          forward for
                                                          biochar
                                                          commercial
                                                          development.
                                                          The US Biochar
                                                          Initiative and
                                                          Sustainable
                                                          Obtainable
                                                          Solutions aims
                                                          to bring
                                                          together
                                                          stakeholders
                                                          in the applied
                                                          biochar
                                                          research
                                                          community and
                                                          the private
                                                          sector to
                                                          further
                                                          biochar market
                                                          development.</span></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><em><b><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#009442">Who
                                                          should attend?</span></b></em><b><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#009442"></span></b></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#403f42">This
                                                          event is
                                                          designed for
                                                          farmers,
                                                          foresters,
                                                          policymakers,
                                                          biochar
                                                          producers,
                                                          industry
                                                          professionals
                                                          and
                                                          entrepreneurs.
                                                          Students and
                                                          interested
                                                          citizens will
                                                          also benefit
                                                          from this
                                                          event.</span></p>
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                                                          will it be
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#403f42">Join
                                                          us at the CH2M
                                                          Hill Alumni
                                                          Center on the
                                                          beautiful
                                                          Oregon State
                                                          University
                                                          Campus in
                                                          Corvallis, OR.</span></p>
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                                                          do I register?</span></b></em><b><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#009442"></span></b></p>
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                                                          will be open
                                                          in February
                                                          2016. Please
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