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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I did participate in 3-5 biomass conferences a year from 1988 and the next 15-20 years – The European, The American –VTT –the Scandinavian + many
more specialized conferences. I got to know many of you that are writing on this page.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">At c conference in Berlin in 2002 I realized that I had had seen 25 % of slides more than once (and some of them 10 times!) , and I decided to
have a conference break for some years.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">A moths ago I attended a “Straw for biogas” conference in Denmark. It was 11 years since I had attended a biogas conference. I had only seen 10
% of the slides </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> .
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It was still many of the same fiery souls presenting the same message as 10-20 years ago but now a little older and some shouting a little more
– some a little more quite – all in frustration of no real results and the decrease in the oil price and the reduction of public support for “green technology”.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I looked at the program of the Rotterdam conference – is it worth 2500 £ - 4000 € (fee+hotel+travel) + 2-3-4 days? Difficult to say. It does not
look all that new. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Is it important to meet and discuss – definitely -
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">But it is not all that easy to discuss the real problem. There is a lot of inertia in gasification.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Eg – when I started in gasification – funded by the Danish technology development program we where all developing gasifiers for CHP – most of us
staged gasifier – Viking – TKE 3 stage – Biosynergy etc. Electricity was expensive and heat was cheap. Now it is opposite and the market for that technology in Europe does not exist.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Pre-coupuled gasifier – where waste or straw are fed in to a power plant is not all that interesting any more, because the big power plants does
not really fit in the “Smartgrid”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Waste gasification is not really competitive with incineration and shale-gas.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">And… and ….and …. and…
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">For me the question Is: Is biomass gasification a hobby og a profession?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">You pay for your hobby – you get payed by your profession.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">One thing I have noticed is that many of my professional network believe I have left gasification because I am not attending conferences that often
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Maybe Tom is right when he says:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Years ago one client concluded that there were two ways to make money with biomass: put on a conference; or, get paid to haul it away.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Fra:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Gasification [mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org]
<b>På vegne af </b>Nicolò Cerni<br>
<b>Sendt:</b> 30. </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">oktober 2015 09:46<br>
<b>Til:</b> Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification<br>
<b>Emne:</b> Re: [Gasification] SPAM: Re: Gasification 2016 Summit, Rotterdam - £265 Early Bird Discount Expiring Tomorrow<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2015-10-30 3:44 GMT+01:00 Tom Miles Easystreet <<a href="mailto:tmiles@trmiles.com" target="_blank">tmiles@trmiles.com</a>>:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yes Leland! One I attended I was publicly dressed down by one of the "Leading" Bioenergy Research Gurus because I hadn't patented our breakthrough and he needed the information to fix his own systems...<br>
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Never had a single prospect close a deal from a conference...the conference organisers at the prices charged seem to do OK though! Still if you can afford it not a bad social occasion...so maybe other reasons to attend.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Yeaaaa! I have never made a sale at a conference, often don't get returned phone calls from supposedly excited prospects.<br>
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Peter Davies <a href="mailto:idgasifier@gmail.com" target="_blank"><idgasifier@gmail.com></a> wrote:<br>
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"Those that can, do. The rest go to conferences!"<br>
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<b><a href="http://www.wplgroup.com/aci/event/gasification-2016/" target="_blank">Gasification 2016</a></b> summit on the 23-24 March in Rotterdam.
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