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<div> <font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000" face="arial"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">I have tried commercial activated charcoal and it doesn't work. It is far superior to bio char in adsorptivity, and the tarry water passes through it without removal. </span></font></div>
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<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Comic Sans MS', sans-serif">Leland T. "Tom" Taylor</font></div>
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From: Paul Anderson <psanders@ilstu.edu><br>
To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification <gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org>; spaco <spaco@baldwin-telecom.net><br>
Cc: gasifiers <gasifiers@bioenergylists.org>; biochar <biochar@yahoogroups.com><br>
Sent: Sat, Jan 16, 2016 5:20 am<br>
Subject: Re: [Gasification] Characterization of waste water from biomass gasification equipment: A case-study from Cambodia<br>
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<div class="aolReplacedBody" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Dear Gasification Listserv and Biochar Listserv,<br>
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The excellent comment by James Joyce (below) did not reach the Gasification readers. It only went to the Biochar readers. Interesting for two reasons (overly simplified, but to make a point):<br>
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1. Gasification for power (engines) is what causes the problem of contaminated waste water, but those readers did not see the "solution offered". THEY are the people who could test and evaluate the solution.<br>
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2. Biochar production (for agriculture and carbon sequestration) has been proposed to make a filter-char that is to be burned, which is what biochar production is trying not to do. That is, char as filter for wastes made by trying to burn all of the biomass to ash.<br>
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Those of us who are subscribed to both lists will see the full discussion. Let's hope that this is a functional solution.<br>
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(Of course it is better if the nasty contents in the waste water were not created in the process of making the electro-mechanical power.)<br>
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To James Joyce, I say "Thanks."<br>
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Paul Anderson<br>
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<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal">Seems to me that the smallest foot print treatment would be to filter the water through char, gravity dewater and then dry the char to less than 30% moisture, then combust it at over 1000 deg C in a chamber that maintains a 2 second residence time for the gases released from the combustion. That will yield useful heat while destroying the recalcitrant hydrocarbons. In locations with weather that does not make solar or even bed drying viable, the process will generate more than enough heat to run a heated air drier.</div>
<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal"> After the past mess if dealt with, such a process would probably only need to be run for a day a week to treat scrubber water from storage tanks (i.e. never put out to lagoons or open storage where it is of great risk to the environment).</div>
<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal"> The equipment required to do that is far less complicated than the gasifiers themselves.</div>
<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal">Regards, </div>
<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal">James Posted by: James Joyce <a class="aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:james@jamesjoyce.com.au"><james@jamesjoyce.com.au></a> </div>
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<pre class="aolmail_moz-signature" cols="72">Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD Email: <a class="aolmail_moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</a> Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072 Website: <a class="aolmail_moz-txt-link-abbreviated" target="_blank" href="http://www.drtlud.com">www.drtlud.com</a></pre>
<div class="aolmail_moz-cite-prefix">On 1/7/2016 10:45 AM, <a class="aolmail_moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:linvent@aol.com">linvent@aol.com</a> wrote:<br>
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<div> <font class="aolmail_Apple-style-span" color="#000000" face="arial"><span class="aolmail_Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;">Tom, </span></font></div>
<div><font class="aolmail_Apple-style-span" color="#000000" face="arial"><span class="aolmail_Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><span class="aolmail_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Thanks for the compliment and appreciation. There were hundreds of "pot" trials using a wide variety of treatments, extractions, etc. before the key process was accidentally stumbled on. Other processes have evolved and include the ability to take sea-water to potable with a fraction of the cost of distillation or RO. </span></font></div>
<div><font class="aolmail_Apple-style-span" color="#000000" face="arial"><span class="aolmail_Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><span class="aolmail_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Assumptions about the tar properties including specific gravity can be quite misleading. </span></font></div>
<div><font class="aolmail_Apple-style-span" color="#000000" face="arial"><span class="aolmail_Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"><span class="aolmail_Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>One aspect of how to deal with the produced water from a gasifier is to give it the right type of compound definition and once that is reached, it makes it much easier to treat it. </span></font></div>
<div style="font-family:arial;color:black;font-size:10pt;clear:both;"><font class="aolmail_Apple-style-span" face="arial">Sincerely,</font><br>
<div><font class="aolmail_Apple-style-span" face="'Comic Sans MS', sans-serif">Leland T. "Tom" Taylor</font></div>
<div><font class="aolmail_Apple-style-span" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thermogenics Inc. </font></div>
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