<div dir="ltr">Hi All,<div><br></div><div>Happy New Year</div><div><br></div><div>There was a NYE turbo woodstove (NT6) a few years ago - but tar gas byproducts in an automotive turbo was a very tough call. Biggest problem is maintaining adequate cooling and lubrication of turbo bearings.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.gas-turbines.com/">http://www.gas-turbines.com/</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>From my experience, you will struggle to get better that 5% wood- in to electricity output for any amateur built steam plant. The best I saw was the White Cliffs Solar Steam Plant - that used a converter HR3 Lister Diesel as a uniflow engine with a bash valve cylinder - and achieved about 22% efficiency.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.rossen.ch/solar/wcengine.html">http://www.rossen.ch/solar/wcengine.html</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>IMHO - this is good enough reason to dismiss steam - as not so much a viable DIY electric power generation plant - but more of an effective deforestation aid. You will burn through 4 x the tonnage of wood than you need for a gasifier.</div><div><br></div><div>Stay Warm</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Ken</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 3 January 2017 at 08:32, Doug <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:doug.williams.nz@gmail.com" target="_blank">doug.williams.nz@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Hi Pete,</p>
<p>We are only as professional as our need to breath the same air.
Because we all are at different levels of knowledge, none of us
can know how to answer, or ask questions, due to the differing
perspective of how our interests have "drawn us in". We all share
that gasification has such promise for energy applications, so
asking questions or providing answers is the reason this list was
created.<br>
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<p>Yes, there have been other groups form to discuss gasification,
There are no short cuts to reliable gasifier performance, but
information without scrutiny can only speak for itself. This Forum
and it's extensive collection of related information, was the
first to recognize the need for such discussions and become
available to us all. There never has been any restriction on who
participates, and some very good people have shared with us
particularly in the earlier years.<br>
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<p>It's a mute point drawing the low price of gasoline into our
discussions relating to an alternative for fossil fuels! It's not
about the price, but availability which can change over night, and
for me, that means being able to be self supporting in time of
need. NZ has had a reported 32,000 quakes this last year, plus
major storms that destroyed electrical distribution facilities.
Are any of us really prepared for the inconvenience when, not if,
it comes? <br>
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<p>Doug Williams.<br>
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<div class="m_7034214478751445271moz-cite-prefix">On 03/01/17 12:21, Pete & Sheri
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Hello
Doug.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I
view this list to be for the professional for the most part,
so I hesitate to join in unless I have a question that I can
clearly describe.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">But
I think at least part of the reason for the lack of traffic
is that there are now several other websites that cater to
hobbyist and advanced tinkerer wood-to-electricity crowd:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">-Yahoo
woodgas group,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">-Yahoo
charcoal gasifier group<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">-Wayne
Keith’s <a href="http://driveonwood.com" target="_blank">driveonwood.com</a> website<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">-<a href="http://allpowerlabs.com" target="_blank">allpowerlabs.com</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">And
I am sure there are many others.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">In
addition (although I have been flamed for even mentioning
it), gasoline for USD$2.00 per gallon does take the edge off
for many people. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Pete
Stanaitis<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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