<div dir="ltr"><div>Greetings all.</div><div><br></div><div>Daryl's initial request makes me interested in looking that direction once again, since I am located in the "heart if the Wheat-Belt, in Canada" I would think that I should have done tests in straw much sooner than now. (since I've literally tested most bio-mass on the planet).</div><div><b><br></b></div><div>Many of the local farmers indicated to me some 7-9 years ago, that they felt it was unfeasible, however this might be a good time to review that option for a convenient feedstock.</div><div><br></div><div>Noting that Daryl is looking for something NOW, I will not be able to help him, but the interest intrigues me.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Greg Manning</div><div><a href="http://www.cangas.ca">www.cangas.ca</a> </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 11:41 PM, Art Krenzel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:PHOENIX98604@msn.com" target="_blank">PHOENIX98604@msn.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">Have you considered converting the wheat straw directly into organic matter to enhance the soil rather than burning it? It would seem Australian soils could use a greater ability to retain water and improved soil tilth.
Equipment to do direct seeding of subsequent crops through surface cover crops is used extensively in the US.</p>
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<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">In the US, we have a 425,000 acre farming area in the Willamette Valley of Oregon which annually converts 2 millions tons of grass straw into organic matter. It came after a history of being burned in the fields for
the previous 50 years. The grass straw has been composted in place on for over 25 years now and we have been almost smoke free since the early 1990's. The farmers have realized a reduction in fertilizer requirements, no increase in crop diseases and <span style="font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif,EmojiFont,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji",NotoColorEmoji,"Segoe UI Symbol","Android Emoji",EmojiSymbols;font-size:16px">improved
nitrogen utilization. All of this while</span> the crop purity and yield is as good as it has ever been. I describe it as a Win-Win-Win. Soil is a complex gift and removing extra organic matter from the soil cycle is not always the best choice.</p>
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<div id="m_1621845567813468623divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font color="#000000" face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Gasification <<a href="mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">gasification-bounces@lists.<wbr>bioenergylists.org</a>> on behalf of DARYL JOHN SCHERGER <<a href="mailto:daryl.scherger@bigpond.com" target="_blank">daryl.scherger@bigpond.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 22, 2017 8:28 PM<span><br>
<b>To:</b> Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification<br>
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<div>Thanks Tom,
<div>I've received a few good leads and hopefully one of them will prove suitable. Liz Hamilton suggested I use your site and it was well worth while. </div>
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<div>We field burn million of tonnes of cereal straw annually in Australia and it just makes sense to use it for energy instead.</div>
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<p class="m_1621845567813468623x_MsoNormal">Ag Energy in Spokane, Washington has been developing a straw gasifier. You will have to contact to them to discover their experience with engines and power generation.
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<p class="m_1621845567813468623x_MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">What is your anticipated cost/KW? </span></p>
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From: DARYL JOHN SCHERGER <<a href="mailto:daryl.scherger@bigpond.com" target="_blank"><span class="m_1621845567813468623x_wt_Email">daryl.scherger@bigpond.com</span><span></span></a>><br>
To: gasification <<a href="mailto:gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank"><span class="m_1621845567813468623x_wt_Email">gasification@lists.<wbr>bioenergylists.org</span><span></span></a>><br>
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<p class="m_1621845567813468623x_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:black">I'm looking for a supplier of proven gasification CHP systems that can use wheat straw as fuel, either shredded or as pellets. The outputs needed are 150
kWe net and 350 kWt. </span></p>
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