<font color='black' size='2' face='Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'>Energy Farmers of Australia has very little specific information on their "projects" which is disappointing. By producing bio=char, you have a built in limit of energy conversion because bio-char or pyrolytic char represents the 30% fixed carbon in organic matter and is the overall thermal conversion is intrinsically limited by this loss. I am still of the opinion that long term "recycling" of crop residue which is what bio-char is has limited benefits from other nutrient depletion. 
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<div style="font-family:helvetica,arial;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Jason <urepedese@gmail.com><br>
To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification <gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org><br>
Sent: Sat, Dec 23, 2017 6:03 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Gasification] Straw Fueled CHP<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Daryl,
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<div>try this crowd <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="http://www.energyfarmers.com.au">http://www.energyfarmers.com.au</a></div>

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<div>I was connected to Euan Beamont at energy farmers back in 2013, and exchanged a few emails with him. I directed him to this list, so he may be party to the conversation anyway. A mutual friend was Business Development Officer for the Council out there and was trying help progress for both Euan and myself. </div>

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<div>Euan told me he knew these guys. <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://www.facebook.com/Green-Distillation-Technologies-427038147363145/">https://www.facebook.com/Green-Distillation-Technologies-427038147363145/</a></div>

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<div>Best Regards</div>

<div>Jason Stewart</div>

<div><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="http://intensifire.co.nz">http://intensifire.co.nz</a><br>
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<div class="aolmail_gmail_quote">On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 5:28 PM, DARYL JOHN SCHERGER <span dir="ltr"><<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:daryl.scherger@bigpond.com">daryl.scherger@bigpond.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Thanks Tom,
<div>I've received a few good leads and hopefully one of them will prove suitable.  Liz Hamilton suggested I use your site and it was well worth while.  </div>

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<div>We field burn million of tonnes of cereal straw annually in Australia and it just makes sense to use it for energy instead.</div>

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<div>Regards,</div>

<div>Daryl.<br>
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From: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:tmiles@trmiles.com">tmiles@trmiles.com</a><br>
To: "'Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification'" <<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org">gasification@lists.<wbr>bioenergylists.org</a>><br>
Sent: Saturday, 23 Dec, 2017 At 3:06 AM<br>
Subject: Re: [Gasification] Straw Fueled CHP<br>
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<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal">Ag Energy in Spokane, Washington has been developing a straw gasifier. You will have to contact to them to discover their experience with engines and power generation. </div>

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<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal">Tom Miles</div>

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<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Gasification [mailto:<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org">gasification-bounces@<wbr>lists.bioenergylists.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Leland Taylor<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 22, 2017 4:19 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <span class="aolmail_m_3266041982651128693wt_Email"><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org">gasification@lists.<wbr>bioenergylists.org</a></span><span></span><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gasification] Straw Fueled CHP</div>

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<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">What is your anticipated cost/KW? </span></div>

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From: DARYL JOHN SCHERGER <<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:daryl.scherger@bigpond.com"><span class="aolmail_m_3266041982651128693wt_Email"></span></a><a href="mailto:daryl.scherger@bigpond.com">daryl.scherger@bigpond.com</a></span><span></span>><br>
To: gasification <<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org"><span class="aolmail_m_3266041982651128693wt_Email">gasification@lists.<wbr>bioenergylists.org</span><span></span></a>><br>
Sent: Thu, Dec 21, 2017 7:23 pm<br>
Subject: [Gasification] Straw Fueled CHP</div>

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<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:black">I'm looking for a supplier of proven gasification CHP systems that can use wheat straw as fuel, either shredded or as pellets.  The outputs needed are 150 kWe net and 350 kWt.  </span></div>
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<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:black">I would like references from operating plants, preferably in Australia, Europe or North America, to confirm the reliability of their systems.  </span></div>
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<div class="aolmail_MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:black">Daryl Scherger</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(65,65,65);background:white">.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:black"></span></div>
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