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<DIV>Dear Doug, Paul and all others, as long as Doug is on this discussion list,
I agreed with him, but in this case I have my doubts. (Sorry Doug)</DIV>
<DIV>Why? </DIV>
<DIV>Cheap solutions based on charcoal gasification are available. </DIV>
<DIV>Activated carbon on coconut shells is a good suggestion, but this is not
what Mr. Feinstein is asking for. </DIV>
<DIV>The company needs electricity and heat.</DIV>
<DIV>In my opinion Paul is correct: when charcoal is available in remote a
remote area it must be possible to produce heat and electricity on a small
scale.</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=psanders@ilstu.edu
href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">Paul Anderson</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 02, 2018 2:34 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org
href="mailto:gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org">Discussion of biomass
pyrolysis and gasification</A> ; <A title=doug.williams.nz@gmail.com
href="mailto:doug.williams.nz@gmail.com">Doug</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=asa@cocoasenso.com href="mailto:asa@cocoasenso.com">Asa
Feinstein</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Gasification] FW: Gasification internship opportunity
in Philippines</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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style='FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline'>Doug
and all,<BR><BR>You can count me as "in" to assist where
appropriate. Main topics for me include:<BR><BR>A. The
production of electricity via char-gasification gases into IC
engines.<BR><BR>B. To better understand the amounts of heat wanted for the
drying processes.<BR><BR>C. Need to know about the types and amounts of
biomass.<BR><BR>This Gasification Listserv is certainly a good place to have
further discussions.<BR><BR>Paul<BR><PRE class=moz-signature cols="72">Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD
Email: <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</A>
Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website: <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="http://www.drtlud.com">www.drtlud.com</A></PRE>
<DIV class=moz-cite-prefix>On 5/1/2018 4:40 PM, Doug wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=mid:69d86be3-e625-9552-8b61-92ae477694e5@gmail.com
type="cite"><P> </P>Hi Gasification Colleagues,<BR><BR>While we can
"collectively" offer <SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; BACKGROUND: white; COLOR: #222222'>Mr
Feinstein just about everything for his project from a commercial perspective,
his project description clearly states that they wish to develop cheap low
cost solutions to become locally manufactured. These are the things that
bother me regarding their concept objectives.<BR><BR>1. If he imports a Intern
Engineer for $500 a month, just how much real value could this person offer
for such a short term contract? <BR><BR>2. Making charcoal, no problem, but
easiest and cheapest option reduces waste heat collection or close coupled
combustion for driers.<BR><BR>3. Quality of charcoal for power generation is
OK for the cheapest char making option, but this is not the quality found in
activated carbon.<BR><BR>4. Steam is required for blanching the product, so a
low cost boiler is a necessity, along with water treatment, the main factor of
boiler efficiency, even cheap ones.<BR><BR>5. Steam blanching has an issue of
toxic waste water, and in a rural location, ground water will become
contaminated unless treated. Do they know about this and who will monitor the
ground water?<BR><BR>6. Maybe activated carbon can be used to clean up the
waste stream, but it would be purchased, as a cheap char option does not
create the type of temperature or steam pressures to make it.<BR><BR>7. No
indicative amount of power generation is stated, but one might think it would
be at least 15-20 kWe given that motor start-ups on oil extruder's etc, need
power generation reserves. Cheap generators can be an expensive low cost
solution, especially if any computers become part of the process.
<BR><BR>Start-up rural projects like this have a history which tell us not to
reinvent the wheel yet once again. The easiest way to do this is to offer
unpaid enthusiastic help to the selected engineering graduate, and this open
Gasification list offers a good way to do it., So who is in, what can you
offer Mr Feinsteins team? <BR><BR>Doug
Williams,<BR>Fluidyne.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR></SPAN><BR>
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