[Greenbuilding] 2000 miles on a scooter to get to the green building conference

Sat Apr 30 12:09:19 CDT 2011

I can appreciate the bicycle idea as I was a bike commuter for 15 years.  The problem is that I need to spend as much time providing free help to my clients as possible and be on the road a little as possible.  That is why I selected the 250cc (with speeds to 70mph apparently)  

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "RT" <ArchiLogic at yahoo.ca> 
To: "Green Building" <greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org> 
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 6:58:22 PM 
Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] 2000 miles on a scooter to get to the green building conference 

On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 20:23:48 -0400, Reuben Deumling <9watts at gmail.com>   
wrote: 

> Even scooters aren't what they used to be. I thought 50cc was the scooter 
> class. What is your anticipated fuel consumption for the trip? 
> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 2:47 PM, RE-USE Consulting   
> <go2nacho at comcast.net>wrote: 
> 
>> ... 2000 miles... on a 250cc scooter! 

Back when I was a 15 yr-old keed, I had a 250cc Yamaha (yes, I drove it   
without a license) and it was definitely in the motorCYCLE class. 

It'd let out a loud wah-o-o-oOOOWWWRRR! as it screamed up to speeds 
that were fast enough to make even invulnerable-minded teenaged boys hang   
on for dear life. 

My older brothers had a Harley-Davidson "Topper" and a Piatti scooters   
before they moved "up" to motorcycles (BSA "Lightning" and a Kawasaki   
something-or-other) and even though they were well over 50cc (Topper @ 165   
cc http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harley-Davidson_Topper and the Piatti @   
125cc  http://www.piattiscooter.com/history.htm ) they were more like a   
modern-day electric-assist bicycle than they were the 250cc Yamaha. 

... point being that going by engine size might not tell one much. 

My guess is that a 165 cc 1960's era scooter compared to a 165cc 2011   
motorbike, would be like the difference between a 1960's era 250 cu inch   
6-cylinder Chevy and a 2011-era 4 litre V-8 BMW ... so a 2011 250 cc   
probably wouldn't be a "scooter" ? 

But I can definitely say that 2000 miles should be do-able in about 11-12   
days on a bicycle. 

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "RT" <ArchiLogic at yahoo.ca> 
To: "Green Building" <greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org> 
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 6:58:22 PM 
Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] 2000 miles on a scooter to get to the green building conference 

On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 20:23:48 -0400, Reuben Deumling <9watts at gmail.com>   
wrote: 

> Even scooters aren't what they used to be. I thought 50cc was the scooter 
> class. What is your anticipated fuel consumption for the trip? 
> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 2:47 PM, RE-USE Consulting   
> <go2nacho at comcast.net>wrote: 
> 
>> ... 2000 miles... on a 250cc scooter! 