[Greenbuilding] Wood-fired auxilliaryheating experience:Ashes (was Re: firewood moisture content)

Douglas E Lamb douglaslamb at columbus.rr.com
Thu Dec 15 20:36:06 PST 2011


Yup! 


Regards,
Doug Lamb
614.323.2005
douglaslamb at columbus.rr.com
 

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[mailto:greenbuilding-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of Kathy
Cochran
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 7:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Wood-fired auxilliaryheating experience:Ashes
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That would take a lot of smoke!

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[mailto:greenbuilding-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of Douglas
E Lamb
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Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Wood-fired auxilliary heating experience:Ashes
(was Re: firewood moisture content)

Good way to get rid of insects if you leave it in long enough! 

Regards,
Doug Lamb
614.323.2005
douglaslamb at columbus.rr.com
 

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[mailto:greenbuilding-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of Kathy
Cochran
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Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Wood-fired auxilliary heating experience:Ashes
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That is a very true statement.  That black metal bucket can put out a lot of
heat!  It works until something starts "smoking"  -  then I take the bucket
outside.  

Kathy

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[mailto:greenbuilding-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of Kenn
Brown
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Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Wood-fired auxilliary heating experience: Ashes
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I finally realized that bucket of ash and coals had heat it them. I now
leave them in the house. 
Kenn

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[mailto:greenbuilding-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of RT
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Subject: [Greenbuilding] Wood-fired auxilliary heating experience: Ashes
(was Re: firewood moisture content)

Sacie wrote:


> Let's hear from more of you who burn wood please. There are obviously 
> many ways of doing it right.  I love heating with wood but it *is* messy.


I think that it may be useful to talk about the ways of doing it wrong--
mistakes are often the best teachers.

I should probably begin at the beginning (firewood preparation) but I'm
worried that if I do, I may forget to mention what is currently in my mind
(geezerdom eh ?), put there by Sacie's mention of ash disposal.

So I'll talk about ashes.

About 10 (?) or more years ago, one of my neighbours set out a container of
ashes in her attached garage (an item I despise and prefer to omit) probably
in the expectation that Spousal Unit would finish the job of disposal in the
morning before he headed off to the office. After all, that's what Spousal
Units are for. Right ?

Unfortunately the next morning, there was nothing left of that house except
the foundation.

Apparently, there was enough life left in the embers buried somewhere in
those ashes to ignite gasoline fumes that had somehow escaped from the fuel
tank of one or more of the vehicles parked in the garage (one, a sports car,
the pride and joy of Spousal Unit, the other the family sedan) ... and then
the fuel tanks of those two vehicles became bombs which apparently ignited
and blew up with some force and started the house on fire.

Apparently the explosions and the brilliant glow of the flames woke up a
neighbour who upon seeing the house next door in flames, called 9-1-1 and
woke up the burning-house neighbours to get them out of the house.

I seem to recall a large bulk propane tank somewhere in the scenario too
(which makes sense because back then, the idea of the natural gas utility
trying to bury gas lines in this neighbourhood (where bedrock is at or near
the surface) ridiculous. That notion proved to be wrong because about
3 or 4 years ago, the gas company installed lines all over this formerly
rural neighbourhood, the installation contractor for my neighbour across the
road learning the hard way that rock is not like earth-- it cost him ~$60K
using successively bigger and bigger rigs trying to break a trench in the
rock from the road to the house) ... but I digress (geezerdumb again, eh ?)

Anyway, the fire was ferocious enough that the next-door neighbours homes
had to be evacuated (none closer than a few hundred feet away), neighbours'
evergreen shrubbery roasted to death by the heat etc.

Moral of the story: Don't build attached garages onto a home simply to house
a heap of steel/glass/plastic that was designed to be used outdoors.

Okay, okay. The real moral of the story is: Don't leave the task of ash
disposal to the Spousal Unit.

Okay, okay, okay. You know what the Real Moral of the story is, but it was
worth a try.


Me ? I put days-dead ashes from the ash drawer under the firebox of my
woodstove outside into a heavy-gauge steel pail (in which steel chain
came) on a suspended concrete-slab (ie fire-proof) sheltered porch and cover
the steel pail with a tightly-fitting lid and weight the lid down with a
stone to discourage entry by inquisitive buck-toothed furry critters.

Then whenever we get those odd days in winter when the laneway and walkways
are turned into a sheet of glare ice, I take some of those ashes and with a
garden trowel, fling the ash out over the surface of the ice like a farmer
sowing seed, to render the once glare ice into a surface that provides
traction for humans, beasts and rubber-tired machines.

Once, many,many moons ago, in a lazy moment, I dumped a pail of ashes in the
drip zone of a cedar hedge, thinking that the alkaline-soil-loving cedars
would like a heavy hit of alkalinity. The truth in the aphorism "Yes it is
possible to have too much of a Good Thing" was a lesson learned  from that
mistake.




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Kanata, Ontario, Canada

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