[Greenbuilding] Redoing all floors

[Ktot (g)]

Re: [Greenbuilding] Redoing all floorsBelieve me, white "blooms" do NOT make a very cool stain pattern. The floor is incredibly ugly. It's an upscale house but if any one walked in to potentially buy it (it's not for sale), they'd run out screaming--the floors are absolutely terrible. Besides the various blooms, there are lines next to where red paper and apparently tape was applied--clearly showing where moisture leaked out next to where it was trapped by the tape. Long lines, looking like broom stick lines, do not make a floor look creative. Plus most of the floors were to be very dark colors (and were when first applied). Now they are all incredibly light due to all the blooms--thus not effective as thermal masses even if they looked OK (which they do not). My floors were supposed to look mottled--the creative, random pattern you refer to--but the blooms do not add to such a pattern. It is beyond a disaster. I have had numerous tile and concrete experts to view it already and without exception they state it's a disaster. It truly is. And that's without even mentioning the huge patches where everything has peeled up (and continues doing so...)
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jason Holstine 
  To: Greenbuilding Listserv 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 2:36 PM
  Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Redoing all floors


  Can you etch the concrete to remove the current sealer, strip the stain with paint stripper, let the concrete properly dry and cure, then go back and stain and refinish?

  Also - any concrete will naturally have a certain unpredictability in the finish pattern, with random burnishing and highs and lows of color. So I typically recommend take advantage of that, fly with it, and stain with a creative, random, very cool stain pattern. You won't know what's mistake/old mess-up and what's intentionally part of the pattern.


  On 7/27/11 2:29 PM, "Ktot (g)" <ktottotc at gmail.com> wrote:


    I explained that in my initial email--less than half the required curing 
    time for the concrete. Thus moisture is trapped under the sealer, creating 
    white "blooms" everywhere. Also whole patches of stain and sealer are coming 
    up which may be due to poor combination of products, use of diesel/propane 
    heaters, other, or also the lack of cure time.

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Corwyn" <corwyn at midcoast.com>
    To: "Green Building" <greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org>
    Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:19 PM
    Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Redoing all floors


    > On 7/27/2011 1:09 PM, Ktot (g) wrote:
    >> I have a brand new home (finished mid-May) that is completely off-grid.
    >> Solar and wind power, solar thermal radiant heat and hot water, and
    >> passive solar design.
    >>
    >> The problem--the stained concrete floors and countertops are defective.
    >> The countertops should be an easy fix--sanding and applying another
    >> layer of epoxy. But the floors are very problematic.
    >>
    >> First, the supposedly very experienced contractor who did them is
    >> refusing to take responsibility for their defective work--they didn't
    >> allow the concrete even 1/2 the curing time required--but my attorney is
    >> addressing that.
    >
    > What exactly is wrong with the floors?
    >
    > Thank You Kindly,
    >
    > Corwyn
    >
    >
    > -- 
    > Topher Belknap
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