[Greenbuilding] "Ecoshel" anyone?

[Tim Vireo Keating]

At this point, FSC is practically meaningless when it comes to 
determining whether logging is sustainable or not, given all the 
certifications by FSC-accredited certifiers in old growth. While it 
would be nice, I highly doubt that this particular company is among 
the very, very few that are accessing WRC from folks who are out 
there scouring the forest floor for already-downed trees. But I'd 
sure love to hear that that is indeed the case.

tim keating

At 10:36 AM -0400 6/22/11, Matt Dirksen wrote:
>Thank you for your opinions about the product. While my 
>understanding is the company is legit when it comes to FSC 
>certification, I am still wondering if it is still a better way 
>to recommend fiber cement over cedar. From a durability perspective, 
>my sense tells me the fiber cement will last longer. It just seems 
>that the newer cedar products won't hold up like the "old-growth" 
>products. On the other hand, I imagine old cedar still has a 
>potential for re-use where I could only hope fiber cement could be 
>diverted from the landfill.
>
>At the end of the day: do I want to support more killing of trees, 
>or digging up of the earth.... or both. (sigh). I'd suspect both the 
>trees and the earth are tired of this giveaway by now.
>
>Matt
>
>
>On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Chris Koehn 
><<mailto:chris at koehn.com>chris at koehn.com> wrote:
>
>Matt,
>
>I'm not familiar with this product in particular. While Tim's 
>admonishment about old growth sources may be applicable, you won't 
>know for sure without asking a few questions of the supplier. The 
>site does claim to use salvaged logs and FSC logs.
>FYI There is a vibrant business in B.C. cutting shakes from stumps 
>of old growth trees that were felled long ago. Shake blockers do 
>this work, often working deep in the bush, using helicopters to take 
>the blocks out. There is also much salvageable red cedar in log form 
>lying in the bush. Until the middle of the last century, most cedar 
>was felled and abandoned to simply get it out of the way so that 
>higher value douglas fir could be accessed. Just Saturday I was 
>walking in the bush and came across three enormous cedar logs that 
>had been felled at least 50 years ago: there's still plenty of 
>salvageable wood in the centre of these logs.
>Western red cedar is an amazingly durable material, and if it can be 
>procured from sustainable sources, it can be a good choice.
>
>Chris
>TimberGuides
>Vancouver Island
>
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