[Greenbuilding] Legionnaire's in water wall features

[Benjamin Pratt]

Wow--never had an Aspirin... I take at least 5 prescription meds every day!
But I do agree that without medicine, the world would be a better
place--at least for the living. The population would be far, far
lower.
Ben


On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 1:26 PM,  <bill.allen at verizon.net> wrote:
> RT,
>
> A bit off topic but I share your experiences.....kids are way too clean in the US today.  Also, I have never had an aspirin or a headache...which came first?:-)
>
> I am reading Salatins' (you know, the guy with the all natural farm in Virginia) book "Folks, This Ain't Normal" in which he describes a good test for your food.....if you leave it out for 2 days and it does NOT grow mold, then something is wrong with it!
>
> Good active life depends on growth and decay. Not that I don't occasionally enjoy a twinkie now and then (you could leave that out on a table for years and it would look good as new)....
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RT <archilogic at yahoo.ca>
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> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 12:19:33
> To: GBioEL<greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org>
> Reply-to: archilogic at chaffyahoo.ca,
>  Green Building <greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org>
> Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Legionnaire's in water wall features
>
> On Thu, 12 Jan 2012 11:15:05 -0500, john bone
> <johnbone at gateshead.plus.com> wrote:
>
>> Ah, that is because you bodies immune system is not "at a low point" of
>> efficiency, due to age or other reasons.
>>
>> It is called Legionnaires as it was a bunch of oldish "American
>> legionnaires",
>
> Well, y'see John, I'm not exactly a spring cockerel ... certainly old
> enough to remember hearing the original news stories surrounding those
> legionnaires' deaths, when they broke.
>
> And up until she passed away 57 days ago, we had my 100 year-old Mom
> living with us in this house and my guess is that she was older than any
> of those Murrican legionnaires.
>
> (In the same breath though, I should probably mention that my Mom never
> took any (Occidental) medications (not even an aspirin), didn't need
> eyeglasses to read small print that I would have difficulty making out
> with my computer-screen-compromised eyeballs and was still pedaling her
> stationary bike the week before her passing).
>
> Which brings me back to my earlier speculation about long-term exposures
> to small doses of otherwise dangerous micro-organisms perhaps being
> beneficial in helping our bodies to develop immunities.
>
> My Mom spent the first 40 years of her life in old (ie pre-communist era)
> China and as anyone who has traveled to China in the modern era will
> attest, the conditions there (even with "modern" knowledge about germs,
> disease transmission etc) are far from being anything Auntie Septic from
> the West would approve of.
> Legionella bacteria in water there would probably be considered the "wimps
> on the block" by the other organisms swimming around with them (again a
> speculation on my part).
>
> I'd often speculated that her amazingly good health was due in large part
> to her having been exposed to all manner of scary micro-organisms in her
> days back in China, helping her body to develop a strong immune system
> that helped to provide her with the longevity we enjoyed.
>
> OTOH, here in the West where children are raised in conditions where a
> micro-organism of any sort is at risk of being assaulted/killed by a
> plethora of chemical cleansers/sterilisers/anti-bacterial solutions,
> cleaning machines etc. we have far too many sickly human specimens with
> all manner of health issues and whose prospects for longevity probably
> aren't very promising.
>
>
> --
> === * ===
> Rob Tom
> Kanata, Ontario, Canada
>
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