[Greenbuilding] ENERGY STAR Clothes Dryers Program Launch

[Paul Eldridge]

Hi Grace.

I wasn't upset or offended by your comments and I apologize if I left 
you with that impression.  My issue is with the way modern day 
appliances are portrayed as the eighth deadly sin or, more correctly, 
one of the original seven.  It would seem to earn one's green 
credentials you have to forego tumble drying and toss away your iron.  
Check, got that.  What else?  My electric kettle?  And should I be 
stocking up on corn cobs and Sears catalogues?

Cheers,
Paul

>On 2012/07/24 19:05 PM, John Salmen wrote:
>
>>/  This has been a funny conversation. I am surprised at the defensiveness in
/>>/  the reactions.
/>
>Likewise!
>
>On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 7:18 AM, Paul Eldridge
><paul.eldridge at ns.sympatico.ca  <http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/greenbuilding_lists.bioenergylists.org>> wrote:
>
>>/  So, you'll have to forgive me if I sound a little testy about having
/>>/  to defend the use of our dryer, but I feel that I've more than
/>>/  carried my weight.
/>
>I have to forgive you?  Well, if I must, then I suppose I must.  You are
>forgiven.  Te absolvo.
>
>I was using your case to generalize, not trying to get on your case.
>Apparently I succeeded without trying, though, and wouldn't THAT be nice
>in other walks of life!
>
>We used to own a dryer.  Now we don't.  We live in an intermittently
>rainy climate, generally humid in the summer and generally frozen in the
>winter.
>
>It's inconvenient, I agree.
>
>It would have been easier to switch away from using the dryer if we were
>charged for our electricity commensurate with all of the costs of that
>electricity, including costs of generation, which include upstream costs
>of extraction of fossil fuels and downstream costs of pollution from
>burning them.
>
>But we aren't charged in that way, and so the feedback loop is skewed,
>and so we make our choices such that the benefit tends to accrue to us,
>while the costs tend to accrue to others.
>
>That was the point I was trying to make, which perhaps was not in view
>from your position behind your redoubt.
>
>Grace