[Greenbuilding] fertilizer from human waste

[Carmine Vasile]

Professor Pratt & Corwyn: If you watch the documentary "World Water Wars: Blue Gold" @ topdocumentaryfilms.com/blue-gold-world-water-wars/ you will discover Mexico City pumps millions of gallons a day of raw sewage -- including radioactive medical waste -- into farms for irrigation.   If you watch a related documentary "Tapped" @ tappedthemovie.com/ you will see how bottled water companies circumvent the Safe Drinking Water Act of 1976 and the Radionuclides Rule of 2000 by selling water in bottles that is not required to be tested to guarantee the total Beta/Gamma dose from 168 radionuclides is less than 4mrem/yr. I'm sure you know ionizing Gamma/Photon radiation destroys and/or mutates DNA and are known causes of cancer, yet the experts interviewed for Tapped are more worried about the plastic in the bottles???   Finally, I think you will be shocked if you check your local water quality reports for compliance with the Radionuclides Rule; summarized in the Quick Guide @ www.epa.gov/ogwdw/radionuclides/pdfs/qrg_radionuclides.pdf.   To date, I have not found one that is in compliance -- even New York City, which has water quality reports dating back to 1997 on its website: nyc.gov/html/dep/html/drinking_water/wsstate.shtml; some with no radiological tabls or uranium tests, even though chemical & radio toxicity are harmful. 
Best regards,Carminegfxtechnology.com 
_____________________ > From: terrain at shaw.ca
> To: greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org; topher at greenfret.com
> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 21:45:40 -0800
> Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] fertilizer from human waste
> 
> Talking about dregs...The biggest problem in any agricultural community that
> has dairy, beef, sheep, pigs or chickens (horses) in the winter is what to
> do with the growing piles of manure. It is a significant issue. We had
> walkerton in Canada which was a raw manure poisoning contamination of a
> water supply that resulted in 7 deaths and 2500 e-coli illnesses. We have
> manure spreaders here running out regularly in the rain which causes
> significant groundwater contamination (against 'regulations' but ignored by
> the various ministries because it is what has always been done - like
> walkerton). Lots of discussion as to how to safely contain and then spread
> the stuff (not even considering the human reserves).
> 
> Gist of that is that anyone involved with acreage in NA will be using
> non-composted manure as an amendment unless it is a hobby farm and they want
> to subsidize the crops. manure on 300 acres works out to about 3-4 tons of
> manure per acre at probably a cost of about 100 per ton (non-organic). That
> would be a minimum to maintain soil nutrient levels if not he won't be doing
> ok for long. Farming is basically shit on shit.
> 
> A good quote from Wes Jackson is something like ' the best of amish farm
> practices failed to maintain soil'.
> 
> So the problem is bigger than anyone's backyard garden as your water supply
> is coming in part from another backyard manure pile.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Greenbuilding [mailto:greenbuilding-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org]
> On Behalf Of Benjamin Pratt
> Sent: January-15-13 7:42 PM
> To: topher at greenfret.com; Green Building
> Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] fertilizer from human waste
> 
> I'm not a big gardener myself, but I've I've seen lots of people who put
> non-composted manure on their gardens/crops.
>    After 8 years of only putting composted food scraps and leaves on my
> vegetable garden--I realized this past summer that the soil was depleted. So
> I am interested int he subject of compost now.
> My friend farms around 300 acres and seems to be doing OK using
> non-composted manure of any kind he can find--as long as it is organic. But
> he doesn't use chicken (or turkey) shit!
> -Ben
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 8:50 PM, Corwyn <corwyn at midcoast.com> wrote:
> > On 1/15/2013 9:30 PM, John Salmen wrote:
> >> On the pessimistic side though I can only imagine the total dregs of 
> >> waste being dumped into soils.
> >
> > Absolutely.  Question then becomes how close to things you are going 
> > to eat and drink do you want those 'dregs'?  Where are you going to 
> > put those dregs, and for how long?
> >
> > Since I know my 'waste' is going on my garden, I am very careful about 
> > not acquiring in the first place, things I don't want there.  Please 
> > feel free to replace 'garden' with 'planet'.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank You Kindly,
> >
> > Corwyn
> >
> > --
> > Topher Belknap
> > Green Fret Consulting
> > Kermit didn't know the half of it...
> > http://www.greenfret.com/
> > topher at greenfret.com
> > (207) 882-7652
> >
> > On 1/15/2013 9:30 PM, John Salmen wrote:
> >>
> >> On the pessimistic side though I can only imagine the total dregs of 
> >> waste being dumped into soils.

 		 	   		  
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