[Greenbuilding] Insulation Embodied ENergy

Gennaro Brooks-Church - Eco Brooklyn info at ecobrooklyn.com
Wed Dec 10 11:56:56 CST 2014


John you weren't meant to ask them.

On Wednesday, December 10, 2014, John Straube <jfstraube at uwaterloo.ca>
wrote:

> The only info I see at your link shows EPS has 100 MJ/kg of embodied vs 16
> for mineral wool and 1 for cellulose.
> So I dont see how it depends who you ask...
>
> On Dec 8, 2014, at 9:55 PM, ErgoDesk <ergodesk at gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
>
> > Depends on who and how you ask, here are some of my refs.
> http://www.evernote.com/l/AAL5N-jyW1lP0J92qy-R7MAlck9u9cCR_OQ/
> >
> > http://about.me/StyroHome
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 6:26 PM, Gennaro Brooks-Church - Eco Brooklyn <
> info at ecobrooklyn.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > Topher you beat me to it. I was going to mention the 700 year old house
> in Schwyz central Switzerland. Who is talking about OSB? Ergo before you go
> touting the magic of plastic all I am saying is that you need to take into
> consideration the massive amounts of embodied energy that EPS has. Have you
> done those calculations? I would be curious. I did read an authoritative
> article claiming that retrofitting an old house is definitely better than
> raising it and building new in terms of energy used (both in construction
> and life of the building).
> >
> >
> > Gennaro Brooks-Church
> > Director, Eco Brooklyn Inc.
> > Cell: 1 347 244 3016 USA
> > www.EcoBrooklyn.com
> > 22 2nd St; Brooklyn, NY 11231
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 7:37 PM, ErgoDesk <ergodesk at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > Funny dude, you can't build that same 250-year-old house from today's
> OSB crap, nor can you find a 250 year old house that energy efficient.
> >
> > http://about.me/StyroHome
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Topher <topher at greenfret.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > On 12/8/2014 7:20 PM, ErgoDesk wrote:
> > > Wood house needs rebuilding every 34 years
> >
> > Funny, I audited a 250 year old house just the other day.  Can you point
> > me at a 250 year old EPS building.
> >
> > The big trouble with EPS is the global warming potential, it requires
> > multiplying that embodied energy by roughly 1000.
> >
> > Thank You Kindly,
> >
> > Topher
> >
> > --
> > Topher Belknap
> > Green Fret Consulting
> > Kermit didn't know the half of it...
> > http://www.GreenFret.com/
> > topher at greenfret.com <javascript:;>
> >
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Gennaro Brooks-Church
Director, Eco Brooklyn Inc.
Cell: 1 347 244 3016 USA
www.EcoBrooklyn.com
22 2nd St; Brooklyn, NY 11231
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