[Greenbuilding] Redwoods

Benjamin Pratt benjamin.g.pratt at gmail.com
Tue Feb 18 13:08:39 CST 2014


Speaking of redwood, you all may want to check out this film.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcEto_Q8MlY



On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Sacie Lambertson <
sacie.lambertson at gmail.com> wrote:

> Re the question of preservation of new deck, in our part of the world you
> *never* put gravel at the base of a post.  Our ground is primarily clay
> which means water that is collected at the base sits there.  Much better to
> put the post in the soil alone.
>
> Moreover, the parts underneath, where the wood makes contact with other
> wood needs to be protected or it simply won't last.
>
> So it depends, no one solution will work for everyone.  Use affordable
> wood that is resistant to water and the elements; for us here in Kansas the
> best choice is Cypress.  Redwood and Cedar cost too much.  We use Hedge
> (Osage Orange) for the posts; these will last far longer than any of us
> live.   I would build a house on Hedge posts.  We use star-headed, self
> driving torx screws for putting it all together.
>
> Were we in the East we might use Black Locust for the posts.
>
> Sacie
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Reuben Deumling <9watts at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 8:47 AM, John Salmen <terrain at shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm still convinced the best treatment for exterior wood is no treatment
>>> - considering that untreated wood degrades from atmosphere at most about 1/4 "
>>> per century - and the natural grey is nice.
>>>
>>
>> That has been my approach to date. But I ask because upon closer
>> inspection I'm finding parts of porches built by me (15-25 years ago) out
>> of Douglas fir which evidence some (serious) rot in places. Not bugs, just
>> disintegration initiated by moisture trapped in cracks. I'm not concerned
>> with surfaces that are exposed to sunlight, but the darker places.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Next on the list is treatments that oxidize the surface uniformly and
>>> 'naturally'. Off the shelf products include Lifetime Wood Treatment.
>>>
>> I'll look into this. Thanks.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Make sure there is a good air path to all surfaces
>>>
>>
>> I find that this doesn't work in all situations, desirable and sensible
>> though it sounds.
>>
>> and good separation from soil (use gravel where possible as a base)
>>>
>>
>> Yes. Done.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Greenbuilding [mailto:
>>> greenbuilding-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] *On Behalf Of *Reuben
>>> Deumling
>>> *Sent:* February-17-14 8:04 AM
>>> *To:* Greenbuilding
>>> *Subject:* [Greenbuilding] protecting outdoor wooden structure from
>>> future decay (or at least delaying it)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm in the process of building a large outdoor structure (porch, timber
>>> frame bridge, stairs, etc.) out of Douglas fir we milled ourselves. The
>>> decking is cedar which I'm not worried about, but the rest I'm realizing
>>> could probably benefit from some attempt at prolonging its useful life. I
>>> despise pressure treated wood, and am not interested in noxious chemicals.
>>> Are there any other methods?
>>>
>>> Thanks very much.
>>>
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the university of wisconsin stout
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