[Greenbuilding] Year-round thermal comfort & insulation

ErgoDesk ergodesk at gmail.com
Sun Jul 15 17:50:34 CDT 2018


Radon is everywhere and it will kill you and your family, why we are so
ignorant is my question to all.


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*George Hawirko*
Product Designer | Styrohome
​,​
 Insulated Building
​​
Envelopes
Phone: 604-477-7897
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Email: ergodesk at gmail.com
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On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 3:47 PM Reuben Deumling <9watts at gmail.com> wrote:

> I had the same question, but the link you provided isn't really the answer
> I was looking for. Got anything more specific?
>
> On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 3:41 PM, ErgoDesk <ergodesk at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Radon:
>> https://www.google.ca/search?q=radon+shield&num=100&newwindow=1&rlz=1C1CHBF_enCA777CA777&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiC4ZS5laLcAhXZHjQIHUh3C4EQ_AUICigB&biw=1280&bih=596
>>
>>
>> [image: Styrohome]
>>
>> *George Hawirko*
>> Product Designer | Styrohome
>> ​,​
>>  Insulated Building
>> ​​
>> Envelopes
>> Phone: 604-477-7897
>> Site: about.me/StyroHome <http://about.me/styrohome>
>> Email: ergodesk at gmail.com
>> Skype: ergodesk
>> Address: #971 12151 224 St.
>>                  Maple Ridge, BC   V2X 7N5
>>                  CANADA
>> [image: linkedin] <https://www.linkedin.com/in/styrohome/>
>> [image: twitter] <https://twitter.com/styrohome>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 3:32 PM Peter Kidd <peterkidd at shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> What's a radon SHIELD
>>>
>>> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
>>> *From: *ErgoDesk
>>> *Sent: *Sunday, July 15, 2018 5:27 PM
>>> *To: *Green Building
>>> *Reply To: *Green Building
>>> *Subject: *Re: [Greenbuilding] Year-round thermal comfort & insulation
>>>
>>>
>>> Was a RADON Shield installed under the Slab?
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: Styrohome]
>>>
>>> *George Hawirko*
>>> Product Designer | Styrohome
>>> ​,​
>>>  Insulated Building
>>> ​​
>>> Envelopes
>>> Phone: 604-477-7897
>>> Site: about.me/StyroHome <http://about.me/styrohome>
>>> Email: ergodesk at gmail.com
>>> Skype: ergodesk
>>> Address: #971 12151 224 St.
>>>                  Maple Ridge, BC   V2X 7N5
>>>                  CANADA
>>> [image: linkedin] <https://www.linkedin.com/in/styrohome/>
>>> [image: twitter] <https://twitter.com/styrohome>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 3:05 PM Beatrice Dohrn via Greenbuilding <
>>> greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: Beatrice Dohrn <beatricedohrn at yahoo.com>
>>>> To: Green Building <greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org>
>>>> Cc:
>>>> Bcc:
>>>> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 15:03:49 -0700
>>>> Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Year-round thermal comfort & insulation
>>>> FYI:  I am also in the PNW, I built my house from Faswall (like
>>>> Durisol, but local). It has a basement, ground floor and bedroom 1 flight
>>>> up. THe walls are, I think, R28. THe roof is a sandwich with 9” of Polyiso
>>>> in it.  So mass and decent insulation given the mild temps here. THe
>>>> basement — which is 2/3 in ground and 1/2 exposed to the East — never gets
>>>> above 65 or below 58. The ground floor is easy to keep cool in heat waves
>>>> by managing day and night window positions. The upstairs disappoints me in
>>>> geting too warm and I find it difficult to get air moving without some
>>>> mechanical ventilation..... I thought I had designed something that would
>>>> work better....
>>>>
>>>> Best, BEatrice.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 15, 2018, at 12:10 AM, Paul Hadfield <
>>>> paul.hadfield at firelight.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Reuben says: "Thermal mass (such as a brick or stone wall) would I think do a much better job producing comfortably cool summer evenings, but would not accomplish much in the winter"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As Mike says, doesn't thermal mass provide a flywheel of heat through cold periods, as building 2226 <https://www.detail-online.com/article/house-without-heating-office-building-in-austria-16667/> (non-domestic, admittedly) shows?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Paul Hadfield.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 14 Jul 2018 at 19:00, <
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>>>>>    1. Year-round thermal comfort & insulation (Reuben Deumling)
>>>>>    2. Re: Year-round thermal comfort & insulation (Mike O'Brien)
>>>>>
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>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> From: Reuben Deumling <9watts at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: Greenbuilding <greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org>
>>>>> Cc:
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>>>>> Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2018 07:43:24 -0700
>>>>> Subject: [Greenbuilding] Year-round thermal comfort & insulation
>>>>> I like insulation: the more the better as far as I'm concerned. For
>>>>> keeping the cold out (speaking colloquially) I've found that careful
>>>>> attention to air sealing and insulation pays huge dividends. But for
>>>>> keeping the summer heat out, I'm finding that the same insulation does a
>>>>> far less admirable job. Stretches of direct sun not only manage to heat up
>>>>> the room/house, it feels like the insulation then does a good job of
>>>>> holding that just-gained heat in. While cool nights with the windows open
>>>>> typically solves the problem in our relatively mild PNW climate I'm still
>>>>> perplexed why the seasonal symmetry I (naively) expected is not evident.
>>>>> The walls in question have two parallel but isolated sets of studs and
>>>>> as much dense packed cellulose as I my Forec 2 insulation blower can force
>>>>> into the nooks and crannies. Thermal mass (such as a brick or stone wall)
>>>>> would I think do a much better job producing comfortably cool summer
>>>>> evenings, but would not accomplish much in the winter. Are there hybrid
>>>>> wall assemblies I'm not aware for? What am I missing?
>>>>>
>>>>> Planned remedies: learn to make exterior shutters, plant more trees.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> From: "Mike O'Brien" <obrien at hevanet.com>
>>>>> To: Green Building <greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org>
>>>>> Cc:
>>>>> Bcc:
>>>>> Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2018 08:40:38 -0700
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Year-round thermal comfort & insulation
>>>>> Hi, Reuben—
>>>>>
>>>>> In our house we used lots of insulation, and also thermal mass. The
>>>>> house is built on a slab, the southern end has a clay finish floor, it has
>>>>> Durasol walls on the south side, and there is a cob wall in the interior.
>>>>> We also installed an ecoroof on the south facing side, which helps reduce
>>>>> thermal gains on that area. I believe the thermal mass helps dampen the
>>>>> temperature swings, especially noticable in extreme weather. The
>>>>> west-facing windows are shaded by a big cedar tree and a (sprawling)
>>>>> wisteria, and the west-facing roof has solar water panels on it. With your
>>>>> same night-flushing strategy, our house remains comfortable, even when the
>>>>> outdoors is in the 90s.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> (503) 819-8991
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 14, 2018, at 7:43 AM, Reuben Deumling <9watts at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I like insulation: the more the better as far as I'm concerned. For
>>>>> keeping the cold out (speaking colloquially) I've found that careful
>>>>> attention to air sealing and insulation pays huge dividends. But for
>>>>> keeping the summer heat out, I'm finding that the same insulation does a
>>>>> far less admirable job. Stretches of direct sun not only manage to heat up
>>>>> the room/house, it feels like the insulation then does a good job of
>>>>> holding that just-gained heat in. While cool nights with the windows open
>>>>> typically solves the problem in our relatively mild PNW climate I'm still
>>>>> perplexed why the seasonal symmetry I (naively) expected is not evident.
>>>>> The walls in question have two parallel but isolated sets of studs and
>>>>> as much dense packed cellulose as I my Forec 2 insulation blower can force
>>>>> into the nooks and crannies. Thermal mass (such as a brick or stone wall)
>>>>> would I think do a much better job producing comfortably cool summer
>>>>> evenings, but would not accomplish much in the winter. Are there hybrid
>>>>> wall assemblies I'm not aware for? What am I missing?
>>>>>
>>>>> Planned remedies: learn to make exterior shutters, plant more trees.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
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>>>> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 15:03:49 -0700
>>>> Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Year-round thermal comfort & insulation
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