[Greenbuilding] Year-round thermal comfort & insulation

ErgoDesk ergodesk at gmail.com
Sun Jul 15 18:45:00 CDT 2018


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*George Hawirko*
Product Designer | Styrohome
,
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On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 4:30 PM Reuben Deumling <9watts at gmail.com> wrote:

> Why are we so grumpy would be my question to you.
>  I don't think it prudent to infer that we are ignorant of the risks of
> radon--we weren't debating that--what some of us were curious about was the
> product you identified. About that product I will confess to being ignorant
> - but curious.
>
> On Sunday, July 15, 2018, ErgoDesk <ergodesk at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Education on Radon:
>> https://globalnews.ca/video/4175308/radon-what-you-need-to-know-about-this-deadly-gas-that-may-be-in-your-home
>>
>>
>> [image: Styrohome]
>>
>> *George Hawirko*
>> Product Designer | Styrohome
>> ​,​
>>  Insulated Building
>> ​​
>> Envelopes
>> Phone: 604-477-7897
>> Site: about.me/StyroHome <http://about.me/styrohome>
>> Email: ergodesk at gmail.com
>> Skype: ergodesk
>> Address: #971 12151 224 St.
>>                  Maple Ridge, BC   V2X 7N5
>>                  CANADA
>> [image: linkedin] <https://www.linkedin.com/in/styrohome/>
>> [image: twitter] <https://twitter.com/styrohome>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 3:50 PM ErgoDesk <ergodesk at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Radon is everywhere and it will kill you and your family, why we are so
>>> ignorant is my question to all.
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: Styrohome]
>>>
>>> *George Hawirko*
>>> Product Designer | Styrohome
>>> ​,​
>>>  Insulated Building
>>> ​​
>>> Envelopes
>>> Phone: 604-477-7897
>>> Site: about.me/StyroHome <http://about.me/styrohome>
>>> Email: ergodesk at gmail.com
>>> Skype: ergodesk
>>> Address: #971 12151 224 St.
>>>                  Maple Ridge, BC   V2X 7N5
>>>                  CANADA
>>> [image: linkedin] <https://www.linkedin.com/in/styrohome/>
>>> [image: twitter] <https://twitter.com/styrohome>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 3:47 PM Reuben Deumling <9watts at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I had the same question, but the link you provided isn't really the
>>>> answer I was looking for. Got anything more specific?
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 3:41 PM, ErgoDesk <ergodesk at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Radon:
>>>>> https://www.google.ca/search?q=radon+shield&num=100&newwindow=1&rlz=1C1CHBF_enCA777CA777&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiC4ZS5laLcAhXZHjQIHUh3C4EQ_AUICigB&biw=1280&bih=596
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: Styrohome]
>>>>>
>>>>> *George Hawirko*
>>>>> Product Designer | Styrohome
>>>>> ​,​
>>>>>  Insulated Building
>>>>> ​​
>>>>> Envelopes
>>>>> Phone: 604-477-7897
>>>>> Site: about.me/StyroHome <http://about.me/styrohome>
>>>>> Email: ergodesk at gmail.com
>>>>> Skype: ergodesk
>>>>> Address: #971 12151 224 St.
>>>>>                  Maple Ridge, BC   V2X 7N5
>>>>>                  CANADA
>>>>> [image: linkedin] <https://www.linkedin.com/in/styrohome/>
>>>>> [image: twitter] <https://twitter.com/styrohome>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 3:32 PM Peter Kidd <peterkidd at shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What's a radon SHIELD
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
>>>>>> *From: *ErgoDesk
>>>>>> *Sent: *Sunday, July 15, 2018 5:27 PM
>>>>>> *To: *Green Building
>>>>>> *Reply To: *Green Building
>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Greenbuilding] Year-round thermal comfort &
>>>>>> insulation
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Was a RADON Shield installed under the Slab?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: Styrohome]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *George Hawirko*
>>>>>> Product Designer | Styrohome
>>>>>> ​,​
>>>>>>  Insulated Building
>>>>>> ​​
>>>>>> Envelopes
>>>>>> Phone: 604-477-7897
>>>>>> Site: about.me/StyroHome <http://about.me/styrohome>
>>>>>> Email: ergodesk at gmail.com
>>>>>> Skype: ergodesk
>>>>>> Address: #971 12151 224 St.
>>>>>>                  Maple Ridge, BC   V2X 7N5
>>>>>>                  CANADA
>>>>>> [image: linkedin] <https://www.linkedin.com/in/styrohome/>
>>>>>> [image: twitter] <https://twitter.com/styrohome>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 3:05 PM Beatrice Dohrn via Greenbuilding <
>>>>>> greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>> From: Beatrice Dohrn <beatricedohrn at yahoo.com>
>>>>>>> To: Green Building <greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org>
>>>>>>> Cc:
>>>>>>> Bcc:
>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 15:03:49 -0700
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Year-round thermal comfort & insulation
>>>>>>> FYI:  I am also in the PNW, I built my house from Faswall (like
>>>>>>> Durisol, but local). It has a basement, ground floor and bedroom 1 flight
>>>>>>> up. THe walls are, I think, R28. THe roof is a sandwich with 9” of Polyiso
>>>>>>> in it.  So mass and decent insulation given the mild temps here. THe
>>>>>>> basement — which is 2/3 in ground and 1/2 exposed to the East — never gets
>>>>>>> above 65 or below 58. The ground floor is easy to keep cool in heat waves
>>>>>>> by managing day and night window positions. The upstairs disappoints me in
>>>>>>> geting too warm and I find it difficult to get air moving without some
>>>>>>> mechanical ventilation..... I thought I had designed something that would
>>>>>>> work better....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best, BEatrice.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 2018, at 12:10 AM, Paul Hadfield <
>>>>>>> paul.hadfield at firelight.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Reuben says: "Thermal mass (such as a brick or stone wall) would I think do a much better job producing comfortably cool summer evenings, but would not accomplish much in the winter"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As Mike says, doesn't thermal mass provide a flywheel of heat through cold periods, as building 2226 <https://www.detail-online.com/article/house-without-heating-office-building-in-austria-16667/> (non-domestic, admittedly) shows?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paul Hadfield.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>    1. Year-round thermal comfort & insulation (Reuben Deumling)
>>>>>>>>    2. Re: Year-round thermal comfort & insulation (Mike O'Brien)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>>> From: Reuben Deumling <9watts at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> To: Greenbuilding <greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org>
>>>>>>>> Cc:
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>>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2018 07:43:24 -0700
>>>>>>>> Subject: [Greenbuilding] Year-round thermal comfort & insulation
>>>>>>>> I like insulation: the more the better as far as I'm concerned. For
>>>>>>>> keeping the cold out (speaking colloquially) I've found that careful
>>>>>>>> attention to air sealing and insulation pays huge dividends. But for
>>>>>>>> keeping the summer heat out, I'm finding that the same insulation does a
>>>>>>>> far less admirable job. Stretches of direct sun not only manage to heat up
>>>>>>>> the room/house, it feels like the insulation then does a good job of
>>>>>>>> holding that just-gained heat in. While cool nights with the windows open
>>>>>>>> typically solves the problem in our relatively mild PNW climate I'm still
>>>>>>>> perplexed why the seasonal symmetry I (naively) expected is not evident.
>>>>>>>> The walls in question have two parallel but isolated sets of studs
>>>>>>>> and as much dense packed cellulose as I my Forec 2 insulation blower can
>>>>>>>> force into the nooks and crannies. Thermal mass (such as a brick or stone
>>>>>>>> wall) would I think do a much better job producing comfortably cool summer
>>>>>>>> evenings, but would not accomplish much in the winter. Are there hybrid
>>>>>>>> wall assemblies I'm not aware for? What am I missing?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Planned remedies: learn to make exterior shutters, plant more trees.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>>> From: "Mike O'Brien" <obrien at hevanet.com>
>>>>>>>> To: Green Building <greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org>
>>>>>>>> Cc:
>>>>>>>> Bcc:
>>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2018 08:40:38 -0700
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Year-round thermal comfort & insulation
>>>>>>>> Hi, Reuben—
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In our house we used lots of insulation, and also thermal mass. The
>>>>>>>> house is built on a slab, the southern end has a clay finish floor, it has
>>>>>>>> Durasol walls on the south side, and there is a cob wall in the interior.
>>>>>>>> We also installed an ecoroof on the south facing side, which helps reduce
>>>>>>>> thermal gains on that area. I believe the thermal mass helps dampen the
>>>>>>>> temperature swings, especially noticable in extreme weather. The
>>>>>>>> west-facing windows are shaded by a big cedar tree and a (sprawling)
>>>>>>>> wisteria, and the west-facing roof has solar water panels on it. With your
>>>>>>>> same night-flushing strategy, our house remains comfortable, even when the
>>>>>>>> outdoors is in the 90s.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>> (503) 819-8991
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 2018, at 7:43 AM, Reuben Deumling <9watts at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I like insulation: the more the better as far as I'm concerned. For
>>>>>>>> keeping the cold out (speaking colloquially) I've found that careful
>>>>>>>> attention to air sealing and insulation pays huge dividends. But for
>>>>>>>> keeping the summer heat out, I'm finding that the same insulation does a
>>>>>>>> far less admirable job. Stretches of direct sun not only manage to heat up
>>>>>>>> the room/house, it feels like the insulation then does a good job of
>>>>>>>> holding that just-gained heat in. While cool nights with the windows open
>>>>>>>> typically solves the problem in our relatively mild PNW climate I'm still
>>>>>>>> perplexed why the seasonal symmetry I (naively) expected is not evident.
>>>>>>>> The walls in question have two parallel but isolated sets of studs
>>>>>>>> and as much dense packed cellulose as I my Forec 2 insulation blower can
>>>>>>>> force into the nooks and crannies. Thermal mass (such as a brick or stone
>>>>>>>> wall) would I think do a much better job producing comfortably cool summer
>>>>>>>> evenings, but would not accomplish much in the winter. Are there hybrid
>>>>>>>> wall assemblies I'm not aware for? What am I missing?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Planned remedies: learn to make exterior shutters, plant more trees.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks!
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>>>>>>> Cc: Beatrice Dohrn <beatricedohrn at yahoo.com>
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>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 15:03:49 -0700
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Year-round thermal comfort & insulation
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