[Greenbuilding] Year-round thermal comfort & insulation

ErgoDesk ergodesk at gmail.com
Sun Jul 15 20:26:17 CDT 2018


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*George Hawirko*
Product Designer | Styrohome
,
 Insulated Building

Envelopes
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                 CANADA
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On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 6:17 PM Michael O'Brien <obrien at hevanet.com> wrote:

> Hi, George—
>
> We ran some boreholes to sample our soil down to about 9 feet. It’s mostly
> sand, so unlikely to be a radon source. I also checked the DOGAMI radon
> maps that record radon tests and our neighborhood is pretty low.
>
> Radon has to piggyback with air, so if the slab is continuous there should
> be no air leaks where radon could enter. Having a tight shell also reduces
> any pressure differential that would drive air/radon transport.
>
> Best, Mike
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 15, 2018, at 3:41 PM, ErgoDesk <ergodesk at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Radon:
> https://www.google.ca/search?q=radon+shield&num=100&newwindow=1&rlz=1C1CHBF_enCA777CA777&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiC4ZS5laLcAhXZHjQIHUh3C4EQ_AUICigB&biw=1280&bih=596
>
>
> [image: Styrohome]
>
> *George Hawirko*
> Product Designer | Styrohome
> ​,​
>  Insulated Building
> ​​
> Envelopes
> Phone: 604-477-7897
> Site: about.me/StyroHome <http://about.me/styrohome>
> Email: ergodesk at gmail.com
> Skype: ergodesk
> Address: #971 12151 224 St.
>                  Maple Ridge, BC   V2X 7N5
>                  CANADA
> [image: linkedin] <https://www.linkedin.com/in/styrohome/>
> [image: twitter] <https://twitter.com/styrohome>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 3:32 PM Peter Kidd <peterkidd at shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>> What's a radon SHIELD
>>
>> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
>> *From: *ErgoDesk
>> *Sent: *Sunday, July 15, 2018 5:27 PM
>> *To: *Green Building
>> *Reply To: *Green Building
>> *Subject: *Re: [Greenbuilding] Year-round thermal comfort & insulation
>>
>>
>> Was a RADON Shield installed under the Slab?
>>
>>
>> [image: Styrohome]
>>
>> *George Hawirko*
>> Product Designer | Styrohome
>> ​,​
>>  Insulated Building
>> ​​
>> Envelopes
>> Phone: 604-477-7897
>> Site: about.me/StyroHome <http://about.me/styrohome>
>> Email: ergodesk at gmail.com
>> Skype: ergodesk
>> Address: #971 12151 224 St.
>>                  Maple Ridge, BC   V2X 7N5
>>                  CANADA
>> [image: linkedin] <https://www.linkedin.com/in/styrohome/>
>> [image: twitter] <https://twitter.com/styrohome>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 3:05 PM Beatrice Dohrn via Greenbuilding <
>> greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: Beatrice Dohrn <beatricedohrn at yahoo.com>
>>> To: Green Building <greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org>
>>> Cc:
>>> Bcc:
>>> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 15:03:49 -0700
>>> Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Year-round thermal comfort & insulation
>>> FYI:  I am also in the PNW, I built my house from Faswall (like Durisol,
>>> but local). It has a basement, ground floor and bedroom 1 flight up. THe
>>> walls are, I think, R28. THe roof is a sandwich with 9” of Polyiso in it.
>>> So mass and decent insulation given the mild temps here. THe basement —
>>> which is 2/3 in ground and 1/2 exposed to the East — never gets above 65 or
>>> below 58. The ground floor is easy to keep cool in heat waves by managing
>>> day and night window positions. The upstairs disappoints me in geting too
>>> warm and I find it difficult to get air moving without some mechanical
>>> ventilation..... I thought I had designed something that would work
>>> better....
>>>
>>> Best, BEatrice.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 15, 2018, at 12:10 AM, Paul Hadfield <
>>> paul.hadfield at firelight.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> Reuben says: "Thermal mass (such as a brick or stone wall) would I think do a much better job producing comfortably cool summer evenings, but would not accomplish much in the winter"
>>>
>>>
>>> As Mike says, doesn't thermal mass provide a flywheel of heat through cold periods, as building 2226 <https://www.detail-online.com/article/house-without-heating-office-building-in-austria-16667/> (non-domestic, admittedly) shows?
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul Hadfield.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 14 Jul 2018 at 19:00, <
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>>>>    1. Year-round thermal comfort & insulation (Reuben Deumling)
>>>>    2. Re: Year-round thermal comfort & insulation (Mike O'Brien)
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>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: Reuben Deumling <9watts at gmail.com>
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>>>> Cc:
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>>>> Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2018 07:43:24 -0700
>>>> Subject: [Greenbuilding] Year-round thermal comfort & insulation
>>>> I like insulation: the more the better as far as I'm concerned. For
>>>> keeping the cold out (speaking colloquially) I've found that careful
>>>> attention to air sealing and insulation pays huge dividends. But for
>>>> keeping the summer heat out, I'm finding that the same insulation does a
>>>> far less admirable job. Stretches of direct sun not only manage to heat up
>>>> the room/house, it feels like the insulation then does a good job of
>>>> holding that just-gained heat in. While cool nights with the windows open
>>>> typically solves the problem in our relatively mild PNW climate I'm still
>>>> perplexed why the seasonal symmetry I (naively) expected is not evident.
>>>> The walls in question have two parallel but isolated sets of studs and
>>>> as much dense packed cellulose as I my Forec 2 insulation blower can force
>>>> into the nooks and crannies. Thermal mass (such as a brick or stone wall)
>>>> would I think do a much better job producing comfortably cool summer
>>>> evenings, but would not accomplish much in the winter. Are there hybrid
>>>> wall assemblies I'm not aware for? What am I missing?
>>>>
>>>> Planned remedies: learn to make exterior shutters, plant more trees.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: "Mike O'Brien" <obrien at hevanet.com>
>>>> To: Green Building <greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org>
>>>> Cc:
>>>> Bcc:
>>>> Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2018 08:40:38 -0700
>>>> Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Year-round thermal comfort & insulation
>>>> Hi, Reuben—
>>>>
>>>> In our house we used lots of insulation, and also thermal mass. The
>>>> house is built on a slab, the southern end has a clay finish floor, it has
>>>> Durasol walls on the south side, and there is a cob wall in the interior.
>>>> We also installed an ecoroof on the south facing side, which helps reduce
>>>> thermal gains on that area. I believe the thermal mass helps dampen the
>>>> temperature swings, especially noticable in extreme weather. The
>>>> west-facing windows are shaded by a big cedar tree and a (sprawling)
>>>> wisteria, and the west-facing roof has solar water panels on it. With your
>>>> same night-flushing strategy, our house remains comfortable, even when the
>>>> outdoors is in the 90s.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>> (503) 819-8991
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 14, 2018, at 7:43 AM, Reuben Deumling <9watts at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I like insulation: the more the better as far as I'm concerned. For
>>>> keeping the cold out (speaking colloquially) I've found that careful
>>>> attention to air sealing and insulation pays huge dividends. But for
>>>> keeping the summer heat out, I'm finding that the same insulation does a
>>>> far less admirable job. Stretches of direct sun not only manage to heat up
>>>> the room/house, it feels like the insulation then does a good job of
>>>> holding that just-gained heat in. While cool nights with the windows open
>>>> typically solves the problem in our relatively mild PNW climate I'm still
>>>> perplexed why the seasonal symmetry I (naively) expected is not evident.
>>>> The walls in question have two parallel but isolated sets of studs and
>>>> as much dense packed cellulose as I my Forec 2 insulation blower can force
>>>> into the nooks and crannies. Thermal mass (such as a brick or stone wall)
>>>> would I think do a much better job producing comfortably cool summer
>>>> evenings, but would not accomplish much in the winter. Are there hybrid
>>>> wall assemblies I'm not aware for? What am I missing?
>>>>
>>>> Planned remedies: learn to make exterior shutters, plant more trees.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
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>>> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 15:03:49 -0700
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