[Greenbuilding] Year-round thermal comfort & insulation
ErgoDesk
ergodesk at gmail.com
Sun Jul 15 23:37:25 CDT 2018
Shiel is what your parents forgot to use, then you popped out, ah.
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*George Hawirko*
Product Designer | Styrohome
,
Insulated Building
Envelopes
Phone: 604-477-7897
Site: about.me/StyroHome <http://about.me/styrohome>
Email: ergodesk at gmail.com
Skype: ergodesk
Address: #971 12151 224 St.
Maple Ridge, BC V2X 7N5
CANADA
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On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 9:27 PM Peter Kidd <peterkidd at shaw.ca> wrote:
> Stay focused, really, what's a shield? Radon I know, techniques to
> manage it I know, but "shield"??
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
> *From: *ErgoDesk
> *Sent: *Sunday, July 15, 2018 7:01 PM
> *To: *Green Building
> *Reply To: *Green Building
> *Subject: *Re: [Greenbuilding] Year-round thermal comfort & insulation
>
>
> Stay focused, Radon Shield in New Home Construction, geeezzzzzz.
>
>
>
> [image: Styrohome]
>
> *George Hawirko*
> Product Designer | Styrohome
> ,
> Insulated Building
>
> Envelopes
> Phone: 604-477-7897
> Site: about.me/StyroHome <http://about.me/styrohome>
> Email: ergodesk at gmail.com
> Skype: ergodesk
> Address: #971 12151 224 St.
> Maple Ridge, BC V2X 7N5
> CANADA
> [image: linkedin] <https://www.linkedin.com/in/styrohome/>
> [image: twitter] <https://twitter.com/styrohome>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 4:30 PM Reuben Deumling <9watts at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Why are we so grumpy would be my question to you.
>> I don't think it prudent to infer that we are ignorant of the risks of
>> radon--we weren't debating that--what some of us were curious about was the
>> product you identified. About that product I will confess to being ignorant
>> - but curious.
>>
>> On Sunday, July 15, 2018, ErgoDesk <ergodesk at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Education on Radon:
>>> https://globalnews.ca/video/4175308/radon-what-you-need-to-know-about-this-deadly-gas-that-may-be-in-your-home
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: Styrohome]
>>>
>>> *George Hawirko*
>>> Product Designer | Styrohome
>>> ,
>>> Insulated Building
>>>
>>> Envelopes
>>> Phone: 604-477-7897
>>> Site: about.me/StyroHome <http://about.me/styrohome>
>>> Email: ergodesk at gmail.com
>>> Skype: ergodesk
>>> Address: #971 12151 224 St.
>>> Maple Ridge, BC V2X 7N5
>>> CANADA
>>> [image: linkedin] <https://www.linkedin.com/in/styrohome/>
>>> [image: twitter] <https://twitter.com/styrohome>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 3:50 PM ErgoDesk <ergodesk at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Radon is everywhere and it will kill you and your family, why we are so
>>>> ignorant is my question to all.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [image: Styrohome]
>>>>
>>>> *George Hawirko*
>>>> Product Designer | Styrohome
>>>> ,
>>>> Insulated Building
>>>>
>>>> Envelopes
>>>> Phone: 604-477-7897
>>>> Site: about.me/StyroHome <http://about.me/styrohome>
>>>> Email: ergodesk at gmail.com
>>>> Skype: ergodesk
>>>> Address: #971 12151 224 St.
>>>> Maple Ridge, BC V2X 7N5
>>>> CANADA
>>>> [image: linkedin] <https://www.linkedin.com/in/styrohome/>
>>>> [image: twitter] <https://twitter.com/styrohome>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 3:47 PM Reuben Deumling <9watts at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I had the same question, but the link you provided isn't really the
>>>>> answer I was looking for. Got anything more specific?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 3:41 PM, ErgoDesk <ergodesk at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Radon:
>>>>>> https://www.google.ca/search?q=radon+shield&num=100&newwindow=1&rlz=1C1CHBF_enCA777CA777&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiC4ZS5laLcAhXZHjQIHUh3C4EQ_AUICigB&biw=1280&bih=596
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: Styrohome]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *George Hawirko*
>>>>>> Product Designer | Styrohome
>>>>>> ,
>>>>>> Insulated Building
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Envelopes
>>>>>> Phone: 604-477-7897
>>>>>> Site: about.me/StyroHome <http://about.me/styrohome>
>>>>>> Email: ergodesk at gmail.com
>>>>>> Skype: ergodesk
>>>>>> Address: #971 12151 224 St.
>>>>>> Maple Ridge, BC V2X 7N5
>>>>>> CANADA
>>>>>> [image: linkedin] <https://www.linkedin.com/in/styrohome/>
>>>>>> [image: twitter] <https://twitter.com/styrohome>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 3:32 PM Peter Kidd <peterkidd at shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What's a radon SHIELD
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
>>>>>>> *From: *ErgoDesk
>>>>>>> *Sent: *Sunday, July 15, 2018 5:27 PM
>>>>>>> *To: *Green Building
>>>>>>> *Reply To: *Green Building
>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Greenbuilding] Year-round thermal comfort &
>>>>>>> insulation
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Was a RADON Shield installed under the Slab?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [image: Styrohome]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *George Hawirko*
>>>>>>> Product Designer | Styrohome
>>>>>>> ,
>>>>>>> Insulated Building
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Envelopes
>>>>>>> Phone: 604-477-7897
>>>>>>> Site: about.me/StyroHome <http://about.me/styrohome>
>>>>>>> Email: ergodesk at gmail.com
>>>>>>> Skype: ergodesk
>>>>>>> Address: #971 12151 224 St.
>>>>>>> Maple Ridge, BC V2X 7N5
>>>>>>> CANADA
>>>>>>> [image: linkedin] <https://www.linkedin.com/in/styrohome/>
>>>>>>> [image: twitter] <https://twitter.com/styrohome>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 3:05 PM Beatrice Dohrn via Greenbuilding <
>>>>>>> greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>>> From: Beatrice Dohrn <beatricedohrn at yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>> To: Green Building <greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org>
>>>>>>>> Cc:
>>>>>>>> Bcc:
>>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 15:03:49 -0700
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Year-round thermal comfort & insulation
>>>>>>>> FYI: I am also in the PNW, I built my house from Faswall (like
>>>>>>>> Durisol, but local). It has a basement, ground floor and bedroom 1 flight
>>>>>>>> up. THe walls are, I think, R28. THe roof is a sandwich with 9” of Polyiso
>>>>>>>> in it. So mass and decent insulation given the mild temps here. THe
>>>>>>>> basement — which is 2/3 in ground and 1/2 exposed to the East — never gets
>>>>>>>> above 65 or below 58. The ground floor is easy to keep cool in heat waves
>>>>>>>> by managing day and night window positions. The upstairs disappoints me in
>>>>>>>> geting too warm and I find it difficult to get air moving without some
>>>>>>>> mechanical ventilation..... I thought I had designed something that would
>>>>>>>> work better....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best, BEatrice.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 2018, at 12:10 AM, Paul Hadfield <
>>>>>>>> paul.hadfield at firelight.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Reuben says: "Thermal mass (such as a brick or stone wall) would I think do a much better job producing comfortably cool summer evenings, but would not accomplish much in the winter"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As Mike says, doesn't thermal mass provide a flywheel of heat through cold periods, as building 2226 <https://www.detail-online.com/article/house-without-heating-office-building-in-austria-16667/> (non-domestic, admittedly) shows?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Paul Hadfield.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1. Year-round thermal comfort & insulation (Reuben Deumling)
>>>>>>>>> 2. Re: Year-round thermal comfort & insulation (Mike O'Brien)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>>>> From: Reuben Deumling <9watts at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: Greenbuilding <greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org>
>>>>>>>>> Cc:
>>>>>>>>> Bcc:
>>>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2018 07:43:24 -0700
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Greenbuilding] Year-round thermal comfort & insulation
>>>>>>>>> I like insulation: the more the better as far as I'm concerned.
>>>>>>>>> For keeping the cold out (speaking colloquially) I've found that careful
>>>>>>>>> attention to air sealing and insulation pays huge dividends. But for
>>>>>>>>> keeping the summer heat out, I'm finding that the same insulation does a
>>>>>>>>> far less admirable job. Stretches of direct sun not only manage to heat up
>>>>>>>>> the room/house, it feels like the insulation then does a good job of
>>>>>>>>> holding that just-gained heat in. While cool nights with the windows open
>>>>>>>>> typically solves the problem in our relatively mild PNW climate I'm still
>>>>>>>>> perplexed why the seasonal symmetry I (naively) expected is not evident.
>>>>>>>>> The walls in question have two parallel but isolated sets of studs
>>>>>>>>> and as much dense packed cellulose as I my Forec 2 insulation blower can
>>>>>>>>> force into the nooks and crannies. Thermal mass (such as a brick or stone
>>>>>>>>> wall) would I think do a much better job producing comfortably cool summer
>>>>>>>>> evenings, but would not accomplish much in the winter. Are there hybrid
>>>>>>>>> wall assemblies I'm not aware for? What am I missing?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Planned remedies: learn to make exterior shutters, plant more
>>>>>>>>> trees.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>>>> From: "Mike O'Brien" <obrien at hevanet.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: Green Building <greenbuilding at lists.bioenergylists.org>
>>>>>>>>> Cc:
>>>>>>>>> Bcc:
>>>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2018 08:40:38 -0700
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Year-round thermal comfort &
>>>>>>>>> insulation
>>>>>>>>> Hi, Reuben—
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In our house we used lots of insulation, and also thermal mass.
>>>>>>>>> The house is built on a slab, the southern end has a clay finish floor, it
>>>>>>>>> has Durasol walls on the south side, and there is a cob wall in the
>>>>>>>>> interior. We also installed an ecoroof on the south facing side, which
>>>>>>>>> helps reduce thermal gains on that area. I believe the thermal mass helps
>>>>>>>>> dampen the temperature swings, especially noticable in extreme weather. The
>>>>>>>>> west-facing windows are shaded by a big cedar tree and a (sprawling)
>>>>>>>>> wisteria, and the west-facing roof has solar water panels on it. With your
>>>>>>>>> same night-flushing strategy, our house remains comfortable, even when the
>>>>>>>>> outdoors is in the 90s.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>> (503) 819-8991
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 2018, at 7:43 AM, Reuben Deumling <9watts at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I like insulation: the more the better as far as I'm concerned.
>>>>>>>>> For keeping the cold out (speaking colloquially) I've found that careful
>>>>>>>>> attention to air sealing and insulation pays huge dividends. But for
>>>>>>>>> keeping the summer heat out, I'm finding that the same insulation does a
>>>>>>>>> far less admirable job. Stretches of direct sun not only manage to heat up
>>>>>>>>> the room/house, it feels like the insulation then does a good job of
>>>>>>>>> holding that just-gained heat in. While cool nights with the windows open
>>>>>>>>> typically solves the problem in our relatively mild PNW climate I'm still
>>>>>>>>> perplexed why the seasonal symmetry I (naively) expected is not evident.
>>>>>>>>> The walls in question have two parallel but isolated sets of studs
>>>>>>>>> and as much dense packed cellulose as I my Forec 2 insulation blower can
>>>>>>>>> force into the nooks and crannies. Thermal mass (such as a brick or stone
>>>>>>>>> wall) would I think do a much better job producing comfortably cool summer
>>>>>>>>> evenings, but would not accomplish much in the winter. Are there hybrid
>>>>>>>>> wall assemblies I'm not aware for? What am I missing?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Planned remedies: learn to make exterior shutters, plant more
>>>>>>>>> trees.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
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>>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 15:03:49 -0700
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Year-round thermal comfort & insulation
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