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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I missed the naked man specification –
do I need to include that in my HVAC specs?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>One thing to keep in mind is that the body
is a heat producer not something requiring heat. That bald man in his Poang
(whatever that is) is producing about 400 btu/hr. to keep his body temp
constant. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Nicks example had 8% glazed area – a
house probably has more like 15% and there also a lot of other variations in radiation
in a room (interior, exterior walls, lights, electrical appliances, surfaces
previously warmed ‘poangs’, sleeping dogs, etc. I would say it is
impossible to compensate for all the variables by simply raising room
temperature.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>As for comfort – you could call it a
happy hypothalamus – or one that perhaps is not working so hard. I would
want to guess that convective losses in colder environments produce more
feelings of discomfort and air flows around glass can get pretty dramatic and
unpredictable. I’m sure not how much progress is being made in
physiological studies on comfort – so many subjective variables.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We have moved away from radiators under
glazing but physiologically it still makes sense to balance a cold surface with
a localized heat source. I remember feeling quite comfy sitting on a heating
register looking out a window on a -30 day.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoAutoSig><u><font size=3 color=green face="Gill Sans MT"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Gill Sans MT";color:green'>JOHN SALMEN
ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN<o:p></o:p></span></font></u></p>
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font-family:"Gill Sans MT";color:black;font-style:italic'>,. <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">DUNCAN</st1:place></st1:City>, B.C. <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">CANADA</st1:place></st1:country-region>, V9L 6M7<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Gill Sans MT";color:black;font-style:italic'>PH
250 748 7672 FAX 250 748 7612 CELL 250 246 8541<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p>
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face="Gill Sans MT"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Gill Sans MT";
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org
[mailto:greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Alan Abrams<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> November 19, 2010 8:04 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> nick pine<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b>
greenbuilding@lists.bioenergylists.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Greenbuilding]
Comfort and shutters</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><strong><b><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>... it looks like we only
have to raise the unshuttered room air temp</span></font></b></strong><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><strong><b><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>from 70 to 70.043 F to make
the rooms equally comfortable, unless you</span></font></b></strong><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><strong><b><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>are sitting right next to a
window.</span></font></b></strong><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><strong><b><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Passiv Haus
fascists seem to overemphasize the effect of mean radiant</span></font></b></strong><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><strong><b><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>temps on comfort.</span></font></b></strong><o:p></o:p></p>
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as he duly qualifies, Nick's calcs assume that the uniformly clad and no doubt
spherical human specimen is in the exact center of the room, losing heat
uniformly over his or her body to a single small window--and is not a middle
ager with a growing bald spot, quietly reading in his Poang between by the two
7'x7' patio doors of his condo living room. <br>
<br>
with regard to PH fascism--if we are to take John Straub's naked man
specification at its face (errr, full frontal?) value--we may not need to go
all the way to U-0.14...<br>
<br>
Nevertheless, the point I am struggling to make is, that in terms of comfort,
there is something significant going on here--in *addition* to mean radiant
temperature.<br>
<br>
AA<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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