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<DIV>In some situations the reduced light within the shower may not appeal to
owners.</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=elitalking@rockbridge.net
href="mailto:elitalking@rockbridge.net">elitalking</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=nick@early.com
href="mailto:nick@early.com">nick pine</A> ; <A
title=greenbuilding@lists.bioenergylists.org
href="mailto:greenbuilding@lists.bioenergylists.org">greenbuilding@lists.bioenergylists.org</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 07, 2010 5:54
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Greenbuilding]
Energy-saving shower</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; FONT-SIZE: 16pt">Nick<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; FONT-SIZE: 16pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; FONT-SIZE: 16pt">I
built an insulated enclosed bathtub shower located in my living room cabin
back in 1990 when I was single and could get away with such rebellion to the
norm.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I located a water tolerant
ceiling at 6’-4” (just high enough to stand.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Walls surrounding it were
insulated.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Although, the doors
were conventional sliding glass doors.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>I really liked the location next to my wood stove with delightful
radiant heat delivering high comfort.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>I enclosed it so I could put an iron pot on a board in shower with hot
rocks from wood stove to produce steam for a sauna.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It was great until I became the
primary parent for my elementary school age daughter who came to live with
me.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I then got with the program
to provide a conventional bathroom.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; FONT-SIZE: 16pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; FONT-SIZE: 16pt">However,
your post stimulates reconsideration of upgrading the tub shower in the
bathroom to contain the humidity for the reason described in that thought
provoking link.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Containing the
humidity in the tub shower cubicle could go a long way to addressing the
vulnerabilities of the humidity issues I bathrooms.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; FONT-SIZE: 16pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="LINE-HEIGHT: 115%; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'; FONT-SIZE: 16pt">Eli
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=nick@early.com href="mailto:nick@early.com">nick pine</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=greenbuilding@lists.bioenergylists.org
href="mailto:greenbuilding@lists.bioenergylists.org">greenbuilding@lists.bioenergylists.org</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 03, 2010 3:42
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Greenbuilding] Energy-saving
shower</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=2 face="Courier New">Has anyone tried a
fully-enclosed shower? </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><A href="http://www.sunfrost.com/efficient_shower.html"><STRONG><FONT
size=2
face="Courier New">http://www.sunfrost.com/efficient_shower.html</FONT></STRONG></A></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=2 face="Courier New">I just built one, and I've been
looking around for an ultra-low-flow showerhead.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=2 face="Courier New">These McMaster-Carr part
numbers look interesting, in brass:</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=2 face="Courier New"></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=2 face="Courier New">50785K184 1/2" FNPT - 1/8" FNPT
adapter $5</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=2
face="Courier New">34615K71 1/8" MNPT - 1/8" FNPT
swivel $13</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=2 face="Courier New">32885K711 60-degree full
cone nozzle $8 0.2 gpm @ 40
psi </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=2 face="Courier New">
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=2 face="Courier New">32885K721 60-degree full
cone nozzle $8 0.5 gpm @ 40
psi </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>McGill U's "water conservation and the mist experience" pamphlet</DIV>
<DIV>recommended an obsolete Bete F200 fog nozzle with a 0.33 lpm
output</DIV>
<DIV>at 20 psi, saying "The advantage of the fan spray pattern
is</DIV>
<DIV>its ability to move soap suds on the skin surface. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Nick</DIV></FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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