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Of course the views exist, just are there are views across the political
spectrum, the religious spectrum, etc. The people who are firmly in one
extreme or another of the spectra are "radicals," and I think
they're actually a very small percentage. Additionally, my point is that
the solutions seldom lie in choosing between either extreme. I don't
think the "sludge" metaphor is useful.<br><br>
(Gennaro: I hope you know I'm not criticizing you. And we're overdue for
catching up on things, given the vast distance between Manhattan and
Brooklyn.)<br><br>
David<br><br>
At 02:56 PM 1/12/2011, Gennaro Brooks-Church wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">You can't find balance until you
know what the extremes are and the<br>
naturalist/techie duality are two of life's extremes. Also some
people<br>
naturally lean towards one, the other or neither or both. David and<br>
Corwyn you may claim you are zen enough to be at peace with the yin<br>
and yang of life or maybe you naturally lean towards the center but
I<br>
have seen enough heated discussions between the techie geeks and the<br>
naturalists to know that these two views exist. Obviously most
people<br>
dip into whatever camp is needed at the time but my point is that it<br>
is important to acknowledge that people naturally lean to a certain<br>
tendency.<br>
If you throw everyone into the melting pot you get sludge.<br><br>
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On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 2:35 PM, David Bergman <bergman@cyberg.com>
wrote:<br>
> At 12:04 PM 1/11/2011, Corwyn wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
> Is it really necessary to make a two camps version of everything in
life?<br>
> Much of our trouble comes from exactly that process. Truth can
be found in<br>
> both camps, and the camps only keep it from being widely
propagated. 'truth<br>
> prison camps' one might say.<br>
><br>
> I'm strongly with Corwyn here. The false dichotomies of choosing one
camp or<br>
> another are not where solutions lie. I can support some
"naturalist" ideas<br>
> while still believing there are technological solutions that can be
a<br>
> positive force, for instance: energy conservation AND energy
efficiency AND<br>
> alternative energy sources. Less travel for business meetings AND
more<br>
> teleconferencing. Less sprawl AND more efficient
transportation.<br>
><br>
> I could make this a much longer post, but I think others have
addressed this<br>
> before.<br>
><br>
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