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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=green face="Comic Sans MS"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:green'>I just had an
idea. You could use salt that you feed livestock, mix it into the mud that you
put into the wall. It will dissolve temporarily into the wall then dry rock
hard, and will not sustain insects, plant growth or insects. My borate is labeled
for pest control.. It doesn’t matter to a do it yourselfer.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org
[mailto:greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Michael O'Brien<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, January 13, 2011
10:31 AM<br>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Greenbuilding]
Sprouting Floor?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt'>Hi, Frank--<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>We built a cob wall inside our house and the straw sprouted green
shoots for a week or so. I assume it was the moisture and clay that allowed the
seeds to sprout. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I love Andy Goldsworthy's work and learned from his clay walls that
people have used a variety of additives to give clay tensile strength,
including pig hair and human hair. I prefer straw and shoots myself!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Jan 12, 2011, at 12:02 PM, Frank Cetera wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Any more details? Would love to know if they figured out why the
grass sprouted. Has this happened to anyone else?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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href="http://www.alchemicalnursery.org/">www.alchemicalnursery.org</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Message: 6<br>
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 16:16:51 -0600<br>
From: "Doug Kalmer" <<a href="mailto:dougkalmer@gmail.com">dougkalmer@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: <<a href="mailto:greenbuilding@lists.bioenergylists.org">greenbuilding@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>><br>
Subject: [Greenbuilding] earthen floor<br>
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I know of a local "eco-architect" who built a SB house for a guy, and
made a earthen floor from local clay. It sprouted grass. Doug<br>
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Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 10:31:50 -0500<br>
From: Frank Cetera <<a href="mailto:alchemicalfranklen@gmail.com">alchemicalfranklen@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:greenbuilding@lists.bioenergylists.org">greenbuilding@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] That Natural Feeling<br>
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Love your website and your work philosophy Gennaro. The earthen floor
photo<br>
essay was interesting, as I am planning on putting in an earthen floor in<br>
the kitchen of a home I am renovating this coming summer.<br>
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I wanted to ask for further examples of how you plan on counteracting the<br>
need for new building materials when you do your work as you say one of your<br>
goals is zero new materials.<br>
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How for instance would you insulate an attic? Or fulfill modern codes<br>
relating to foundation work or electrical work? Or is the zero new<br>
materials idea more of an ideal than a reality?<br>
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~ Frank Cetera<br>
<a href="http://www.alchemicalnursery.org/" target="_blank">www.alchemicalnursery.org</a><br>
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