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face="Comic Sans MS"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:green'>I know that salt or borate dries to almost diamond hard consistency
(sp?), particularly on wood. It is still susceptible to water.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=green face="Comic Sans MS"><span
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when it is mixed with other materials, I don’t know. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org
[mailto:greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Frank Cetera<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, January 14, 2011
12:57 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
greenbuilding@lists.bioenergylists.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Greenbuilding] Dog Hair
and Salt</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Michael, now I know
another use for my shaggy dog's hair after his quarterly cuts! Though maybe it
is not course enough?<br>
<br>
Kenn, salt is a good idea. In fact, I just learned about salt's hardening
property when my girlfriend was preparing an activity for her after-school kids
program, by mixing a basic dough with lots of salt and then baking rock-hard
beads for painting and jewelry making.<br>
<br>
~Frank Cetera<br>
<a href="http://www.alchemicalnursery.org">www.alchemicalnursery.org</a><br>
<br>
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Message: 7<br>
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 08:31:01 -0800<br>
From: "Michael O'Brien" <<a href="mailto:obrien@hevanet.com">obrien@hevanet.com</a>><br>
To: <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PersonName w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Green</st1:PlaceName>
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Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Sprouting Floor?<br>
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href="mailto:65CE7FBD-00AB-439B-99DA-D9157423B656@hevanet.com">65CE7FBD-00AB-439B-99DA-D9157423B656@hevanet.com</a>><br>
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Hi, Frank--<br>
<br>
We built a cob wall inside our house and the straw sprouted green shoots for a
week or so. I assume it was the moisture and clay that allowed the seeds to
sprout.<br>
<br>
I love Andy Goldsworthy's work and learned from his clay walls that people have
used a variety of additives to give clay tensile strength, including pig hair
and human hair. I prefer straw and shoots myself!<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
Mike O'Brien<br>
<br>
On Jan 12, 2011, at 12:02 PM, Frank Cetera wrote:<br>
<br>
> Any more details? Would love to know if they figured out why the
grass sprouted. Has this happened to anyone else?<br>
><br>
> ~Frank Cetera<br>
> <a href="http://www.alchemicalnursery.org" target="_blank">www.alchemicalnursery.org</a><br>
><br>
><br>
<br>
Message: 8<br>
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 11:06:13 -0600<br>
From: "kenn brown" <<a href="mailto:kenn2536@centurylink.net">kenn2536@centurylink.net</a>><br>
To: "'<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PersonName w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Green</st1:PlaceName>
<st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Building</st1:PlaceType></st1:PersonName></st1:place>'"
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Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Sprouting Floor?<br>
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I just had an idea. You could use salt that you feed livestock, mix it into<br>
the mud that you put into the wall. It will dissolve temporarily into the<br>
wall then dry rock hard, and will not sustain insects, plant growth or<br>
insects. My borate is labeled for pest control.. It doesn't matter to a do<br>
it yourselfer.<br>
<br>
Kenn Brown<br>
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