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<DIV>Gennaro Brooks-Church wrote:</DIV>
<DIV>I think we need to veer significantly more in the direction of cultural and
natural related issues to solve our ecological issues.</DIV>
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<DIV>Clarke Olsen wrote:</DIV>
<DIV>I don't see science as the enemy of ecology, rather it's our rejection of
science that will hasten our end. </DIV>
<DIV>Not the science of gadgets, of which everyone has a favorite, from
photovoltaics to AK-47's, but the more </DIV>
<DIV>demanding science of seeking to understand the reality of our
universe. </DIV>
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<DIV>My comment:</DIV>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal>I frankly believe that the
solutions to our resource dilemma that is threatening our ecology is more likely
to come from the third world where people look up to subsistence than from our
culture where we look down on subsistence. As professional designers and
builders, we are expected to achieve a level of opulent comfort and size without
the participation of the occupant. This is what moves us to the techie
approach. However, life in the environment is a cycle. Beyond
shelter, the key to survival is to find a way to be in that cycle. It is
not permanent. We are not permanent. Transportation, settlement
patterns, food production methods are huge components of sustainability.
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</SPAN>Finding the solutions that allow us to not deplete resources that can not
be replaced will move us to more natural social cultural solutions.
Technology alone will not do it. <FONT size=3>Technology is the application
of science, not the science itself.<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></P>
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you, Steve, Corwyn, Gennero, and John for posting messages about
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<DIV>Steve Catow writes:</DIV>
<DIV>Sustainability is also about making homes that last (with a little TLC and
maintenance) rather than get torn down and replaced every 50 years - which is
another catastrophic NA trend. </DIV>
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<DIV>My comment:</DIV>
<DIV>Permanance is an illusion. The problem with our buildings is that we
ignore that fact such that when the building is too funky to deal with, the
remains are a burden to the environment and the community. There is a case
to be made for planning buildings that allow for preserving the
embodied energy of the materials for reconstruction in new shelters
appropriate for the time when the building is no longer appropriate.
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