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At 03:04 PM 1/30/2011, Jason Holstine wrote:<br>
<font face="Calibri">We sell 4 lines of wall finishes: American Pride
(aka Mythic)....<br><br>
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</font>I do like Mythic/American Pride, but the problem is local
availability. I participated in an eco show house a couple of years and
Mythic sponsored the paint. The problem was that all colors had to
selected and ordered ahead so they could be mixed and shipped. If we
didn't like some of the shades and (of course) had no time for shipping,
etc., we had to use local stores and B-M paints.<br><br>
Also, many painters don't want to work with material they can't get
locally, as in on the way to the job. Especially with finicky designers
and clients (myself included) who want to look at lots of color samples.
Maybe Mythic's distribution has gotten better??<br><br>
I also like that some B-M outlets have those baby-food size samplers.
They have saved us a lot of $ and waste in not buying pints for
samples.<br><br>
David Bergman RA LEED AP<br>
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</font><blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""><font face="Calibri">Home
Hardware sounds like a local hardware store...they may be a Ben Moore
dealer and selling the same Natura paint. Ask them for MSDS and technical
data sheets. <br><br>
Also ask about their tinting systemsmost lines add VOCs and
</font><font face="Calibri" color="#800000">Alkylphenol Ethoxylates
(APE)</font><font face="Calibri">, which are surfactants (detergents)
that can be <i>oestrogenic (</i>hormone disrupting) and
<i>bioaccumulative</i> (they don’t break down in the environment and
increase concentration up the food chain).<br><br>
You have to look beyond the VOC label. This is an old issue but still
quite relevant. Many paints still have exempted VOCs (b/c they don’t
react with sunlight to cause ozone smog they aren’t regulated and so
aren’t part of the label’s VOC number), acetone (nail polish remover),
crystalline silica, ethylene glycol (antifreeze), or formaldehyde
precursors (in the can they don’t do anything but when their applied the
chemicals react with the air to form formaldehyde)...you have to check
the MSDS for disclosures and even then they can still be hidden. For
example, BM Aura still has 35 g/l VOCs and ethylene glycol.<br>
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And of course there’s the junk factor is the paint actually a good
paint and does what paint is sposed to do. All good paints will tell you
2 coats are recommended, and often a coat of primer for best hiding and
adhesion. Some of the waterier paints will need 3-4 coats, especially for
darker colors.<br><br>
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Now, b/c we sell paints, the following has bias in the answer...<br><br>
We sell 4 lines of wall finishes: American Pride (aka Mythic), AFM
Safecoat, American Clay plasters, Bioshield paints. All are ZERO VOCs and
zero of the above junk and there are no VOCs or APE in any of the tints.
About as healthy as it gets. Costs: $20s-40s a gallon, so about 40% less
then BenMoore and a BMW less than Farrow and Ball. Don’t take that crap
that great paint has to be so expensive.<br><br>
We have had a number of customers come in and complain about both Aura
and Natura odors and reactions, and have covered them with our American
Pride or AFM Safecoat lines to fix it. These lines are extremely
popular.<br><br>
In terms of quality of the finish, the Smithsonian uses our American
Pride. Their curators do some serious testing.<br><br>
Hope this helps,<br><br>
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</font><font face="Verdana" size=1><b>Jason Holstine<br>
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On 1/30/11 1:58 PM, "Lynelle Hamilton"
<<a href="lynelle@lahamilton.htm">lynelle@lahamilton.com</a>>
wrote:<br><br>
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<dd><font face="Consolas" size=2>I am searching for a No-VOC paint for my
house. I know that Farrow and <br>
<dd>Ball is great, but can't swing the $$ to prime and paint with
it.<br><br>
<dd>I am looking at Aura and Natura, but am confused about Natura.
Both <br>
<dd>Benjamin Moore and Home Hardware sell "non-VOC" paints
under this label. <br>
<dd>I can't find any information on whether they are indeed the same
paint, <br>
<dd>or not.<br>
<dd>Home Hardware's is much cheaper, but I don't know anything about
quality <br>
<dd>and coverage.<br><br>
<dd>Can anyone shed light on this? Or, is there a better one out
there for <br>
<dd>new walls. I'm painting on my own, so need something available
to <br>
<dd>consumers.<br>
<br>
<dd>Many thanks!<br><br>
<dd>Lynelle<br>
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