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Interesting idea: window boxes needn't be limited to the width of the window. They could easily project beyond the sides of <div>the opening, so from a 36" wide window one could farm a 60" to 72" wide box.<br><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div>Clarke Olsen</div><div>373 route 203</div><div>Spencertown, NY 12165 </div><div>USA</div><div>518-392-4640</div><div><a href="mailto:colsen@fairpoint.net">colsen@fairpoint.net</a></div><div><br></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span> </div><br><div><div>On Apr 11, 2011, at 3:51 PM, JOHN SALMEN wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"> <div class="Section1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">I’ve had to look at humidity issues for indoor pools, indoor gardens, living walls - and it is a really difficult issue to deal with. Plants (especially food plants) need moisture and they transpire so you have two choices. One is to maintain a moist environment to reduce transpiration rates or to water heavily and ventilate heavily. So the growing environment needs to be made of materials that can handle moisture and has some antifungal properties – our living environments (including soft furnishings, clothing, etc.) are not made of these materials so there is a big conflict. Our health is also compromised by excessive humidity.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">So, ideally you isolate the growing environment from the living environment and accomplishing that in an urban environment (without greenspace, roofspace or deckspace) is difficult. Food production also requires a lot of human energy that I have found people have a hard time maintaining. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">I like collective gardening approaches where some local greenspace or roofspace is shared in some way. In my community I have found people that are much better at growing things than I am so I support them.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">That said – I like window boxes – miniature greenhouses that hang out (or in) and replace an existing window. A 3x4 window using the square foot gardening approach on two layers can have about 60 foodplants in production. Easy to isolate and can be heated with ventilation exhaust and could even be vented to a HWHP.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">John<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"></p><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"> </div><p class="avgcert">No virus found in this message.<br> Checked by AVG - <a href="http://www.avg.com">www.avg.com</a><br> Version: 10.0.1209 / Virus Database: 1500/3565 - Release Date: 04/11/11<o:p></o:p></p> </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">_______________________________________________</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Greenbuilding mailing list</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">to Send a Message to the list, use the email address</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a href="mailto:Greenbuilding@bioenergylists.org">Greenbuilding@bioenergylists.org</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a href="http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/greenbuilding_lists.bioenergylists.org">http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/greenbuilding_lists.bioenergylists.org</a></div> </blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>