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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap: break-word;-webkit-nbsp-mode: space;-webkit-line-break: after-white-space'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Because I am OLD, and in 15 years I will be OLDER! So I want to put in something that will last me for the rest of my gardening life!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Kathy<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org [mailto:greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>natural building<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 14, 2011 8:22 AM<br><b>To:</b> Green Building<br><b>Subject:</b> [Greenbuilding] best lumber for raised vegetable beds<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Why does it have to last 40 years?<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>What's wrong with using something natural and replacing it every 10 - 15?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Regards,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Papyrus;color:#630AFF'>Steve Satow</span></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Papyrus;color:#630AFF'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Papyrus;color:#630AFF'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Papyrus;color:#630AFF'><a href="http://www.naturalbuildingsite.net">www.naturalbuildingsite.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Papyrus;color:#630AFF'><a href="mailto:naturalbuilding@shaw.ca">naturalbuilding@shaw.ca</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 2011-04-14, at 7:41 AM, Tim Vireo Keating wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Optima","serif"'>The problem with cedar that will actually last 40 years in ground contact is that it is likely from old-growth. Young cedar doesn't last nearly as long as the old-growth "clear" stuff. Which is why Weyerhaeuser bought MacMillan Bloedel, then Canada's largest forest-products company, to get access to the last stands of big old-growth Western red cedar left in the world. Now they are the top cedar provider. But it will soon be gone, since the second-growth stuff didn't work for them (because it didn't work for the user).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Optima","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Optima","serif"'>RPL is often the way to go when looking for durability in exterior applications.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Optima","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Optima","serif"'>Sure, the cedar will eventually become part of Mother Earth, but is that really what we're looking for? How about, when the project is done, taking the material up and recycling it? No impact on forests at all.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Optima","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Optima","serif"'>tim keating<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Optima","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=1 width="100%" noshade style='color:#A0A0A0' align=center></div><p class=avgcert>No virus found in this message.<br>Checked by AVG - <a href="http://www.avg.com">www.avg.com</a><br>Version: 10.0.1209 / Virus Database: 1500/3572 - Release Date: 04/13/11<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>