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>>Care to elaborate? Do you have a timetable in mind when you
say 'soon'? <br>
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Soon as in as soon as as soon as we ensure that politics stop
getting in the way. All politics, all agendas need to be set aside
and it needs to be focused upon. then it will be solved. This
won't be easy as the big Oil coal companies will fight it tooth and
nail.<br>
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>>So, what does the aluminum recycling industry make out of
ground up soft drink cans?<br>
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Doing my part here i haven't drank soda in years.<br>
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>>Do you imagine that the rubber that wears off the water
bureau's truck's tires is collected, scraped off the asphalt, and
somehow allowed to reenter the tire-making process? <br>
<br>
You have me there. and I see no way at this time to replace that
rubber with a more sustainable alternative, but I'm no expert in
the field. I wouldn't call me an expert an the 'Green' area of
knowledge either, that's why i read the lists and from time to time
ask questions. like I did this time.<br>
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When I asked "Are there non sustainable materials used in
purification?" I was actually referring to the actual purification
processing not the infrastructure that is in most cases already in
place, and lasts for a long time.<br>
<br>
Lee<br>
On 5/18/2011 11:13 AM, Reuben Deumling wrote:
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 11:05 AM, lee
Weaver <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div class="im">>>I am not preoccupied with costs in
financial terms as much as in the materials and energy that
are ground up in the process. Low entropy isn't something
you can buy back with money.<br>
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This may be the statement that may "Shine a light" for me.
Are there non sustainable materials used in purification?<br>
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<div>yes, pretty much everything. How about the electricity to
run pumps for starters? The materials that are locked in every
bit of infrastructure: rubber, steel, aluminum, plastics,
copper... take your pick. It is all being mined and degraded
and dispersed. Do you imagine that the rubber that wears off
the water bureau's truck's tires is collected, scraped off the
asphalt, and somehow allowed to reenter the tire-making
process? We don't even do a very good job of collecting the
worn out tires themselves. Not to mention the energy required
to separate the steel belting out of the crumbly rubber. You
probably realize that the favorite poster child of the
recycling industry, the aluminum soft drink can, isn't
actually recycled back into aluminum soft drink cans? The
alloy of the lid and the alloy of the rest of the can are
sufficiently different that when you smash them up you get an
alloy that is not useful to make either the lid or the can
body. So, what does the aluminum recycling industry make out
of ground up soft drink cans? Window frames that leak heat and
engine blocks that disperse it. <br>
Pass the entropy, please. I'd like another helping.<br>
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I'm not worrying about the energy since i believe that we will
soon solve the energy issues we have, and finally break free
of fossil fuel consumption.<br>
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<div>Ah, I see. Yes, well. <br>
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Care to elaborate? Do you have a timetable in mind when you
say 'soon'? <br>
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