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<div>At this point, FSC is practically meaningless when it comes to
determining whether logging is sustainable or not, given all the
certifications by FSC-accredited certifiers in old growth. While it
would be nice, I highly doubt that this particular company is among
the very, very few that are accessing WRC from folks who are out there
scouring the forest floor for already-downed trees. But I'd sure love
to hear that that is indeed the case.</div>
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<div>tim keating</div>
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<div>At 10:36 AM -0400 6/22/11, Matt Dirksen wrote:</div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>Thank you for your opinions about the
product. While my understanding is the company is legit when it comes
to FSC certification, I am still wondering if it is still a better way
to recommend fiber cement over cedar. From a durability
perspective, my sense tells me the fiber cement will last longer. It
just seems that the newer cedar products won't hold up like the
"old-growth" products. On the other hand, I imagine old
cedar still has a potential for re-use where I could only hope fiber
cement could be diverted from the landfill.</blockquote>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite>At the end of the day: do I want to
support more killing of trees, or digging up of the earth.... or both.
(sigh). I'd suspect both the trees and the earth are tired of this
giveaway by now.</blockquote>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite>On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Chris
Koehn <<a href="mailto:chris@koehn.com">chris@koehn.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote>Matt,<br>
<br>
I'm not familiar with this product in particular. While Tim's
admonishment about old growth sources may be applicable, you won't
know for sure without asking a few questions of the supplier. The site
does claim to use salvaged logs and FSC logs.<br>
FYI There is a vibrant business in B.C. cutting shakes from stumps of
old growth trees that were felled long ago. Shake blockers do this
work, often working deep in the bush, using helicopters to take the
blocks out. There is also much salvageable red cedar in log form lying
in the bush. Until the middle of the last century, most cedar was
felled and abandoned to simply get it out of the way so that higher
value douglas fir could be accessed. Just Saturday I was walking in
the bush and came across three enormous cedar logs that had been
felled at least 50 years ago: there's still plenty of salvageable wood
in the centre of these logs.<br>
Western red cedar is an amazingly durable material, and if it can be
procured from sustainable sources, it can be a good choice.<br>
<br>
Chris<br>
TimberGuides<br>
Vancouver Island<br>
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