<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Modern medical practitioners likes to call this phenomenon "psychosomatic" and often writes off such conditions as 'all-in-the-mind' but genuine health and healing is almost entirely controlled by the mind. Consciously or sub-consciously.<div><br></div><div>What most 'medicines' do is help to create a condition in which the body can heal itself, under the control of the mind. Those forms of treatment that actually cause a change - such as radiation or chemotherapy - do so by destroying, rather than regenerating.</div><div><br></div><div>So to suggest that a condition is somehow 'unreal' because it is 'in the mind' is a dubious assertion... IMHO!</div><div><br></div><div>Steve.</div><div><br></div><div><br><div>
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<br><div><div>On 2011-07-25, at 11:16 AM, Jason Holstine wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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Some kids never grow old of that need.<br>
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On 7/25/11 12:58 PM, "Gennaro Brooks-Church" <<a href="x-msg://54/info@ecobrooklyn.com">info@ecobrooklyn.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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</span></font><blockquote type="cite"><font size="2"><font face="Consolas, Courier New, Courier"><span style="font-size:10pt">I've heard of studies where they gave people a chalk pill and told<br>
them it was a useless chalk pill. Nothing much happened. Then they<br>
gave the same pill and said it was useful medicine. Lo and behold the<br>
people said the pill helped....<br>
So maybe in the end it doesn't matter if this devise works. It works<br>
for Carmine.<br>
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On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Keith Winston<br>
<<a href="x-msg://54/keith@earthsunenergy.com">keith@earthsunenergy.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> From: Carmine Vasile <<a href="x-msg://54/gfx-ch@msn.com">gfx-ch@msn.com</a>><br>
>><br>
>> Nick: It's not just a "metal plate clamped onto the pipe"; it's an<br>
>> ultrasonic resonator that extracts energy from running water. It takes a<br>
>> while to begin working and will NOT "cost you heat energy" either. Before<br>
>> you condemn an invention you should do some homework. Carmine<br>
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> I think Nick's point about costing heat energy has to do with the heat<br>
> dissipation of adding a fin to a tube. But in any case, if it "extracts"<br>
> energy from running water, something happens: either the water gets colder,<br>
> or there is greater resistance to flow in the pipe, as far as I can tell.<br>
> But I've never seen anything that operates anything like this: resonators<br>
> generally require very specific flow rates or frequencies that they are<br>
> tuned to (i.e. the Takoma Narrows bridge bounced around for months before<br>
> the conditions became perfect for it's destruction). This device doesn't<br>
> specify anything about the flow rate. It also doesn't actually enter the<br>
> water (that would open up regulatory cans of worms, no doubt), so where does<br>
> this energy come from and how is it extracted? Why don't we use this<br>
> incredible energy extraction technology to solve the worlds' energy<br>
> problems? You say "do some homework", but I can't figure out the homework to<br>
> do? There's no there there.<br>
><br>
> One of the prominent features of humans is our ability to lie, including<br>
> (and perhaps especially) to ourselves. One of the major advances/results of<br>
> the development of science was to try to provide a means for detecting and<br>
> controlling our fabrications and exaggerations... even when we believe them.<br>
> Our scientific understanding is always limited, so maybe this device is<br>
> pushing the frontier, and it does something that we don't understand and<br>
> can't properly explain. But that's not what I see: instead I see<br>
> science-like mumbo-jumbo that is self-contradictory and meaningless. Which<br>
> speaks to me of purposeful misleading. No independent testing, no<br>
> peer-reviewed articles... Not even an honest "we don't underrstand how the<br>
> hell this thing works, but it's amazing" (hint: that probably doesn't sell<br>
> too many doo-hickeys).<br>
><br>
> The green technology field is full of hand-waving empty promises, and they<br>
> can severely undermine the confidence people have in new technologies. But<br>
> I'm probably raging pointlessly here: this is as old as human society. And<br>
> maybe undermined confidence is a good thing: the problem here is not that<br>
> people lie, but that people don't question.<br>
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> Keith<br>
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