<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Yes, new concrete must cure before it will take any stain, at least 28 days!<div><br></div><div>Anncha</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; 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margin-left: 0px; font-size: 10px; "><font face="Lucida Grande" size="4" color="#0000ff" style="font: normal normal normal 13px/normal 'Lucida Grande'; color: rgb(0, 0, 255); font-size: 11px; ">E <a href="mailto:anncha1@aol.com">anncha1@aol.com</a></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Trebuchet MS'; color: rgb(0, 0, 238); min-height: 11px; "><b></b><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Trebuchet MS" size="2" color="#0000ee" style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Trebuchet MS'; color: rgb(0, 0, 238); "><b>Please consider the environment before printing this email.</b></font></div></div><div><font face="Trebuchet MS" size="2" color="#0000ee" style="font: normal normal normal 10px/normal 'Trebuchet MS'; color: rgb(0, 0, 238); "><b><br></b></font></div></span></div></span></div><div><div>On Jul 28, 2011, at 9:33 AM, RT wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 17:56:11 -0400, Ktot (g) <<a href="mailto:ktottotc@gmail.com">ktottotc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">Talking to various experts, at least 28 days should have been left between pour and cure.<br></blockquote><br>Either you or the "various experts" are confused because the above<br>statement makes no sense.<br>A look at the strength vs time graph (example shown in link provided in previous message)<br>will quickly illustrate why.<br><br>There is no assurance that grinding down improperly cured concrete<br>(whether it be with carborundum stones or diamond stones) will yield a<br>better finished surface.<br><br>If the concrete was crappy concrete (ie compromised mix quality due to addition of water at the site, followed by improper curing) to begin with, grinding away the more dense surface layer (created as a result of the troweling process) is only going to expose more poor quality concrete.<br><br>Then you'd still have to apply surface treatments in order to make the concrete look and wear like something other than crappy concrete. And since the wear layer would only be a very thin, chemical stew film, it's likely need to be refinished again and again and again over the years.<br><br>Why bother with the time, trouble, mess , energy and expense ?<br><br>I'd cover it over with tile (preferably an unglazed, fully vitrified porcelain or such-like) or stone (not a limestone or marble because they're too soft).<br><br><br>-- <br>=== * ===<br>Rob Tom<br>Kanata, Ontario, Canada<br>< A r c h i L o g i c at Y a h o o dot C A ><br>(manually winnow the chaff from my edress if you hit REPLY)<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Greenbuilding mailing list<br>to Send a Message to the list, use the email address<br><a href="mailto:Greenbuilding@bioenergylists.org">Greenbuilding@bioenergylists.org</a><br><br>to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page<br>http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/greenbuilding_lists.bioenergylists.org<br></div></blockquote></div><br></div><br><br></body></html>