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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Amen to Carbon Tax for simplicity of getting to the
point and getting the non caring to participate in the solution. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Eli</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=steve@tjiang.org href="mailto:steve@tjiang.org">Steven Tjiang</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=greenbuilding@lists.bioenergylists.org
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 31, 2011 5:00
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Greenbuilding] Drying
Clothes</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I disagree...I think tax and price mechanisms are the only
thing that reliably works as long as we value individual choice and individual
innovation. Our politicians are just too weak to lead, to weak to
explain this to everybody. What we need is a carbon tax.......it's one
simple mechanism and doesn't rely on anybody's unreliable motive to do the
"right" thing, nor all sorts of regulation that ultimately has unintended
consequences.
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<DIV>---- Steve (KZ6LSD)<BR><BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Reuben Deumling <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:9watts@gmail.com">9watts@gmail.com</A>></SPAN>
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<DIV class=im><BR><BR>On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 12:21 PM, JAY WALSH <<A
href="mailto:jaywalsh@usa.net" target=_blank>jaywalsh@usa.net</A>>
wrote:<BR>> Can't say I have any better solutions, but question banking
on higher prices and scarcity as a<BR>> solution that will save
us.<BR><BR></DIV>price increases alone do not a policy make, even though
(some) salutary effects may accompany these rises. I think supply side
solutions have had a thirty-year run with not so much to show, so now it's
time to revisit demand side solutions. How hard could it be? To reduce our
consumption of electricity by 80% below 1990 levels is to return to ~1960
consumption levels (this does not take account of population growth). Many
people in every town are already consuming at levels comparable to this
today (with or without expert guidance). We could ask them how they do it
for starters.<BR>Or start a competition between households, between
neighborhoods, between towns. Offer real prizes. <BR><BR>If the city of
Murcia, Spain can <A
href="http://www.springwise.com/government/murciacity/"
target=_blank>offer</A> citizens a chance to<B> trade in their cars for a
lifetime pass for its new tram system</B>, what could we do in the US that
reflects a comparably serious commitment to avoiding climate
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