<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Reuben Deumling</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:9watts@gmail.com">9watts@gmail.com</a>></span><br>Date: Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 4:43 PM<br>
Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Greywater heat recovery<br>To: Nick Pine <<a href="mailto:nick@early.com">nick@early.com</a>><br>Cc: "Dr. C.F. Vasile" <<a href="mailto:gfx-ch@msn.com">gfx-ch@msn.com</a>>, <a href="mailto:greenbuilding@listserv.repp.org">greenbuilding@listserv.repp.org</a><br>
<br><br>No one has yet mentioned Bucky Fuller's fog gun shower. I understand it took him a whole hour to go through a pint of water .... <br>see <<a href="http://www.buckminster.info/Ideas/07-IcosHouseShowerScientific.htm" target="_blank">
http://www.buckminster.info/Ideas/07-IcosHouseShowerScientific.htm</a>> <br>for a fun drawing of this setup.<br><br>Somebody could surely make such a one for less than a GFX, no?<br><font color="#888888"><br>Reuben Deumling<br>
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<p><font face="Arial" size="2">Hi Reuben,</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2">Here's a link. I think you can order a copy for about
$6,</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2">or wait for it to become "digitally
available."</font></p>
<p><a href="http://www.mcgill.ca/mchg/publications/" target="_blank"><u><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2">http://www.mcgill.ca/mchg/publications/</font></font></u></a></p></div>
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<div style="font:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="background:#e4e4e4;font:10pt arial"><b>From:</b>
<a title="9watts@gmail.com" href="mailto:9watts@gmail.com" target="_blank">Reuben Deumling</a>
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</div><div class="im"><div style="font:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="nick@early.com" href="mailto:nick@early.com" target="_blank">Nick Pine</a> </div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 16, 2007 9:05
AM</div>
<div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Greenbuilding] Greywater
heat recovery</div>
<div><br></div></div><div><span id="q_110cafb890788ba7_3" class="h4">- Hide quoted text -</span></div>Have you a copy or know where to get a copy of this book? I
have so far not had any luck. Though I did find the following, which is
related:<br><font size="-1"><span><a href="http://www.ewb-uiuc.org/system/files?file=" target="_blank">www.ewb-uiuc.org/system/files?file=</a><b>Mist</b>ingShower-1.pdf
-<br><br>The folks at Sunfrost also talk about keeping the air movement down
in one's shower:<br><a href="http://www.sunfrost.com/efficient_shower.html" target="_blank">http://www.sunfrost.com/efficient_shower.html</a><br><br>All
the best.<br><br>Reuben<br></span></font><br>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 2/16/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Nick
Pine</b> <<a href="mailto:nick@early.com" target="_blank"> nick@early.com</a>>
wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="padding-left:1ex;margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">Reuben
Deumling writes:<br><br>>No one has yet mentioned Bucky <span class="il">Fuller</span>'s <span class="il">fog</span> <span class="il">gun</span>
<br>shower. I understand it took him a whole hour<br>to go through a pint of
water ....<br><br>The "Water Conservation and the Mist Experience"
booklet<br>from McGill U evaluates a number of different nozzles and
<br>systems. A 2 or 5 gallon garden sprayer might work well,
with<br>simplified plumbing. The hardest part might be getting soap<br>out
of long hair.<br><br>A 10 minute 105 F shower in a 2'x6'x8' R10 low-mass
enclosure <br>in a 70 F room would only lose 10/60(105-70)160ft^2/R10<br>=
93 Btu to the room, ie 27 Wh, worth 27/1000x10 = 0.27 cents<br>at
10cents/kWh.<br><br>Nick<br></blockquote></div><br>