<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Nick,</span></div><div><br><span></span></div><div><span>Please elaborate on why you think recirculating hot water is not "environmentally kosher".</span></div><div><br><span></span></div><div><span>I
would have thought it would be the most energy and water efficient
(except the fog system - thanks for that Reuben) way to take a long
shower. You are essentially reusing the water over and over again, and
the energy required to maintain desired temperature would be less than
trying to use a heat recovery method. No?</span></div><div><br></div><div><span>~Sanjay</span></div><div><br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Nick Pyner <npyner@tig.com.au><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> sanjay jain <sanjayjainuk@yahoo.co.uk>; Green Building <greenbuilding@lists.bioenergylists.org><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, September 4, 2011 8:42 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> RE: [Greenbuilding] Technology for long hot showers<br></font><br><meta http-equiv="x-dns-prefetch-control" content="off"><div id="yiv1085165168">
<div><span class="yiv1085165168218380700-05092011"><font face="Arial" size="2" color="#0000ff">Sounds
like more trouble than it's worth to me. And the re-heating could be a
long way from being environmentally kosher. There is already such a shower
in existance round here. It is called a quench shower. I have never seen one,
and I don't expect to.</font></span></div>
<div><span class="yiv1085165168218380700-05092011"><font face="Arial" size="2" color="#0000ff"></font></span> </div>
<div><span class="yiv1085165168218380700-05092011"><font face="Arial" size="2" color="#0000ff">A
greener way and long hot showers don't go together well but, if you insist on
trying, at least the capital investment will be returned more quickly than when
taking kosher short showers.</font></span></div>
<div><span class="yiv1085165168218380700-05092011"><font face="Arial" size="2" color="#0000ff"></font></span> </div>
<div><span class="yiv1085165168218380700-05092011"><font face="Arial" size="2" color="#0000ff">You
may retrofit a solar water heater could make a huge dent in the heating cost.
You might even enjoy some very pursuasive assistance from the government to do
this.</font></span></div>
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<div><span class="yiv1085165168218380700-05092011"><font face="Arial" size="2" color="#0000ff">You
might be able to install a drain water heat recovery device. It could be more
practical than solar, and can save about 35% of the heating
costs.</font></span></div>
<div><span class="yiv1085165168218380700-05092011"><font face="Arial" size="2" color="#0000ff"></font></span> </div>
<div><span class="yiv1085165168218380700-05092011"><font face="Arial" size="2" color="#0000ff">Neither of these do anything about the water and I submit the best bet
here is to try to use the water subsequently elsewhere rather than fiddling
about with it in the shower. </font></span><span class="yiv1085165168218380700-05092011"><font face="Arial" size="2" color="#0000ff">Recycling grey
water is not very effective or useful for most people, particularly for
those who take twenty minute showers.</font></span></div>
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<div><font size="2">Nick Pyner<br><br>Dee Why NSW </font></div>
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</b>sanjay jain<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 5 September 2011 3:15 AM<br><b>To:</b>
Green Building<br><b>Subject:</b> [Greenbuilding] Technology for long hot
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<div>Hi all,</div>
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<div>Any one know of a green(er) way to take 20-30 minute showers? <br></div>-
A tub plug that can be foot operated.<br><br>- Plug is connected to a water
recirculating device<br><br>- When not stepped on, the water will
recirculate<br><br>- Press the plug to drain the water, person can step on the
plug when they don't want to the water to recirculate.<br><br>- Recirculating
water is reheated to desired
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