<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Gary,</span></div><div><br><span></span></div><div><span>What as shame you are promoting Microsoft over Open Source. M$ has caused millions, if not billions of tonnes of unnecessary eWaste. They are constantly forcing people to upgrade their OS, which requires better hardware and so people are forced to replace perfectly usable equipment.</span></div><div><br><span></span></div><div><span>See my petition at:<br></span></div><div><br><span></span></div><div><span>http://www.change.org/petitions/microsoft-ceo-stop-promoting-e-waste</span></div><div><br><span></span></div><div><span>~sanjay<br></span></div><br><div><br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><hr
size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Gary BIs <gary@builditsolar.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Green Building <greenbuilding@lists.bioenergylists.org><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, September 26, 2011 3:52 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Greenbuilding] Web Design<br></font><br><meta http-equiv="x-dns-prefetch-control" content="off"><div id="yiv1259108203">
Hi Eli,<br>
I can tell you what works pretty well for me on the BuildItSolar.com
site.<br>
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I use the Expressions Web software from Microsoft. Expressions Web
is what MS came up with after they dropped Frontpage. Both of these
are more word processor like than they are HTML editor like. I very
rarely do anything in HTML. Expressions Web is a good deal more
than an editor -- without getting into their hype, its just about
everything you need to create and maintain even a large and complex
website. I won't say there is no learning curve, but its not much
more work than learning Word. It generally produces clean and
standards compliant code that is easy to read and edit if you want
to do that. I think that considering what they provide its an
exceptional bargain.<br>
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Because my site is large and does contain a lot of information that
is subject to change, I did look into Joomla and one of the other
similar packages. I decided against it because its fairly complex
and it comes with limitations I did not want to live with. It seems
to me that if you plan your site carefully from the start and keep
it well organized its not really that difficult to keep up even a
very large site.<br>
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My "formula" is to concentrate hard on making the content good and
detailed -- detailed enough to build projects from. Other than a
few Javascript calculators, I don't use anything but straight HTML
-- no Flash etc. The site averages 12,000 unique visitors a day,
so it does fine without the fancy stuff. People care a lot more
about content than they do about Flash -- if you are doing a one man
site, spend your time on the stuff that counts.<br>
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In the end, you want to pick an approach that is right for you and
your background -- it may not end up being what a person who earns
his living on a web development team would pick. Feel free to email
me if you think I can be of help.<br>
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Gary<br>
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2011 at 10:50 AM, elitalking <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:elitalking@rockbridge.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:elitalking@rockbridge.net">elitalking@rockbridge.net</a>></span>
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<div style="line-height: normal; margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" class="yiv1259108203MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 16pt;">I know this may
seem off topic with greenbuilding,
however, I know that many on this list
manage websites.<span> </span>I have
decided to do the same.<span> I want to
promote many of the concepts that are
relavant to this list on my site.</span></span></div>
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<div style="line-height: normal; margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" class="yiv1259108203MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 16pt;"><span></span>I am
wondering how you manage your website.<span>
</span>Did you get a consultant to develop
the format, or did you design it yourself.
My inclination is to do it myself.<span>
</span>However, I am finding the HTML code
is not intuitive at all.<span> </span>I
am working through the tutorial of a
program called Coffee Cup (HTML code
editor).<span> </span>It certainly makes
it easier to enter the code and quickly
view your results.<span> </span>However,
it does not bypass the need to learn the
code.<span> </span>This program also has
a graphic editor which is more intuitive.<span>
</span>However, it does not support HTML5,
which I have learned is the latest
language being supported by the dominant
browsers.<span> </span>I like that
concept of a graphic editor, but if they
are not supporting graphic editor with the
new HTML versions, it tells me they have
trouble with that approach and are fading
it out.<span> </span>The easiest method
I have identified yet is converting a MS
Word document to an HTML.<span> </span>It
is very intuitive.<span> </span><span> </span>I
noticed that when I viewed the source
code, it was really long, thousands of
lines.<span> </span>I am wondering if
this will slow down the loading of the
page.<span> </span>Another program
described in my book “Web Design in Easy
Steps”, they describe another program call
Dreamweaver by Adobe.<span> </span>The
book claims this is a robust program that
includes graphic layout features.<span> </span><span> I
would expect a significant learning
curve. They do not offer trial period
installation or return policy. The cost
of program with training is around
$200. No problem if it meets my need.
However, I would like to hear from some
who may be using this program. </span></span></div>
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<div style="line-height: normal; margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" class="yiv1259108203MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 16pt;">For those that do
not know, you can see the code used on a
loaded webpage by right clicking on the
page and left clicking the view source.
What comes up makes no sense to the
untrained eye.<span> </span>It is the
coded instructions to the browser how to
display the information on page.<span> </span>This
is an example of taking a thousand words
to describe one picture.<span> </span><span> </span></span></div>
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<div style="line-height: normal; margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" class="yiv1259108203MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 16pt;">Eli </span></div>
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