<p>I agree with sanjay. Open source is the way to go for many reasons</p>
<p>Gennaro Brooks-Church<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 26, 2011 5:59 PM, "sanjay jain" <<a href="mailto:sanjayjainuk@yahoo.co.uk">sanjayjainuk@yahoo.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">> Gary,<br>> <br>> What as shame you are promoting Microsoft over Open Source. M$ has caused millions, if not billions of tonnes of unnecessary eWaste. They are constantly forcing people to upgrade their OS, which requires better hardware and so people are forced to replace perfectly usable equipment.<br>
> <br>> See my petition at:<br>> <br>> <br>> <a href="http://www.change.org/petitions/microsoft-ceo-stop-promoting-e-waste">http://www.change.org/petitions/microsoft-ceo-stop-promoting-e-waste</a><br>> <br>
> ~sanjay<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> ________________________________<br>> From: Gary BIs <<a href="mailto:gary@builditsolar.com">gary@builditsolar.com</a>><br>> To: Green Building <<a href="mailto:greenbuilding@lists.bioenergylists.org">greenbuilding@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>><br>
> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 3:52 PM<br>> Subject: Re: [Greenbuilding] Web Design<br>> <br>> <br>> Hi Eli,<br>> I can tell you what works pretty well for me on the BuildItSolar.com<br>> site.<br>
> <br>> I use the Expressions Web software from Microsoft. Expressions Web<br>> is what MS came up with after they dropped Frontpage. Both of these<br>> are more word processor like than they are HTML editor like. I very<br>
> rarely do anything in HTML. Expressions Web is a good deal more<br>> than an editor -- without getting into their hype, its just about<br>> everything you need to create and maintain even a large and complex<br>
> website. I won't say there is no learning curve, but its not much<br>> more work than learning Word. It generally produces clean and<br>> standards compliant code that is easy to read and edit if you want<br>
> to do that. I think that considering what they provide its an<br>> exceptional bargain.<br>> <br>> Because my site is large and does contain a lot of information that<br>> is subject to change, I did look into Joomla and one of the other<br>
> similar packages. I decided against it because its fairly complex<br>> and it comes with limitations I did not want to live with. It seems<br>> to me that if you plan your site carefully from the start and keep<br>
> it well organized its not really that difficult to keep up even a<br>> very large site.<br>> <br>> My "formula" is to concentrate hard on making the content good and<br>> detailed -- detailed enough to build projects from. Other than a<br>
> few Javascript calculators, I don't use anything but straight HTML<br>> -- no Flash etc. The site averages 12,000 unique visitors a day,<br>> so it does fine without the fancy stuff. People care a lot more<br>
> about content than they do about Flash -- if you are doing a one man<br>> site, spend your time on the stuff that counts.<br>> <br>> In the end, you want to pick an approach that is right for you and<br>
> your background -- it may not end up being what a person who earns<br>> his living on a web development team would pick. Feel free to email<br>> me if you think I can be of help.<br>> <br>> Gary<br>
> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>>On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 10:50 AM, elitalking <<a href="mailto:elitalking@rockbridge.net">elitalking@rockbridge.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>>>I know this may seem off topic with greenbuilding, however, I know that many on this list manage websites. I have decided to do the same. I want to promote many of the concepts that are relavant to this list on my site.<br>
>>> <br>>>>I am wondering how you manage your website. Did you get a consultant to develop the format, or did you design it yourself. My inclination is to do it myself. However, I am finding the HTML code is not intuitive at all. I am working through the tutorial of a program called Coffee Cup (HTML code editor). It certainly makes it easier to enter the code and quickly view your results. However, it does not bypass the need to learn the code. This program also has a graphic editor which is more intuitive. However, it does not support HTML5, which I have learned is the latest language being supported by the dominant browsers. I like that concept of a graphic editor, but if they are not supporting graphic editor with the new HTML versions, it tells me they have trouble with that approach and are fading it out. The easiest method I have identified yet is converting a MS Word document to an HTML. It is very intuitive. I noticed that when I<br>
> viewed the source code, it was really long, thousands of lines. I am wondering if this will slow down the loading of the page. Another program described in my book “Web Design in Easy Steps”, they describe another program call Dreamweaver by Adobe. The book claims this is a robust program that includes graphic layout features. I would expect a significant learning curve. They do not offer trial period installation or return policy. The cost of program with training is around $200. No problem if it meets my need. However, I would like to hear from some who may be using this program. <br>
>>> <br>>>>For those that do not know, you can see the code used on a loaded webpage by right clicking on the page and left clicking the view source. What comes up makes no sense to the untrained eye. It is the coded instructions to the browser how to display the information on page. This is an example of taking a thousand words to describe one picture. <br>
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