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      Having spent 21 total years in school culminating in a PhD program
    in Atmospheric Physics, let me say that the poisoned water from a
    microwave story is pure paranoid fancy and you should be careful
    what you choose to believe.<br>
      Joe<br>
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    On 9/26/2011 8:31 AM, Gennaro Brooks-Church - Eco Brooklyn wrote:
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cite="mid:CAPV9BxNcnw7qEqV81CRj+cvmbkU6rm9Q6xAAJ-pAOLHVgqqFPQ@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">Maybe somebody on this list with a microwave can do
      the test? Seems like a pretty big deal worth looking into?
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        Gennaro Brooks-Church<br>
        <br>
        Cell: 1 347 244 3016 USA<br>
        <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.EcoBrooklyn.com">www.EcoBrooklyn.com</a><br>
        22 2nd St; Brooklyn, NY 11231<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:28 AM,
          natural building <span dir="ltr"><<a
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            <div style="word-wrap: break-word;">While  I make no claims
              as to whether the 'microwaved water' story is true or
              false.
              <div>I do question whether 'Snopes' is the right authority
                with which to categorically dismiss it!</div>
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              <div>Regards,<br>
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                  <div>On 2011-09-26, at 8:03 AM, Benjamin Pratt wrote:</div>
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                    <div>Gennaro,<br>
                      when I read your message i knew the plant
                      experiment couldn't be true.<br>
                      I googled it, and I was right. Here is one link.<br>
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                        href="http://www.snopes.com/science/microwave/plants.asp"
                        target="_blank">http://www.snopes.com/science/microwave/plants.asp</a><br>
                      Ben<br>
                      <br>
                      On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Gennaro
                      Brooks-Church - Eco Brooklyn<br>
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                        href="mailto:info@ecobrooklyn.com"
                        target="_blank">info@ecobrooklyn.com</a>>
                      wrote:<br>
                      <blockquote type="cite">Any thoughts out there
                        about microwaves and radiation? Also I've seen
                        those<br>
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                      <blockquote type="cite">tests where plants watered
                        with water that was first boiled in a microwave<br>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote type="cite">died. I've avoided
                        microwaves for these reasons.<br>
                      </blockquote>
                      <blockquote type="cite">Gennaro Brooks-Church<br>
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                        Cell: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="tel:1%20347%20244%203016"
                          value="+13472443016" target="_blank">1 347 244
                          3016</a> USA<br>
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                      <blockquote type="cite"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://www.EcoBrooklyn.com"
                          target="_blank">www.EcoBrooklyn.com</a><br>
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                      <blockquote type="cite">22 2nd St; Brooklyn, NY
                        11231<br>
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                        On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 10:23 AM, elitalking
                        <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:elitalking@rockbridge.net"
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                      <blockquote type="cite">wrote:<br>
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                        <blockquote type="cite">Induction stoves are
                          great.  I learned about them from this list.
                           My wife<br>
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                      <blockquote type="cite">
                        <blockquote type="cite">started out a little
                          skeptical, but is not a believer.  We are
                          moving<br>
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                        <blockquote type="cite">towards grid tied
                          photovoltaic.  The most efficient cooking is
                          microwave. It<br>
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                        <blockquote type="cite">heats the water first
                          which is the food.  The ceramic or glass
                          container is<br>
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                          heated by conduction from the food.   We do
                          not use plastic.  However, some<br>
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                        <blockquote type="cite">foods like stir fried
                          vegetables, boiled foods or some bread baking
                          do not<br>
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                        <blockquote type="cite">work in microwave.
                           Foods that require a lot of boiling or frying
                          go to<br>
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                          induction stove top.  Foods that require
                          baking go to Brevell Oven.  This<br>
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                        <blockquote type="cite">used a typical heat
                          element, but it is smaller than typical oven.
                           The<br>
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                        <blockquote type="cite">controls are very
                          precise for heating temp and time.  It is big
                          enough for<br>
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                      </blockquote>
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                          almost all we cook.  The big Thanksgiving
                          Turkey is the only dinner event it<br>
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                        <blockquote type="cite">could not handle.
                           However, we discovered that we cut the Turkey
                          up and it<br>
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                      </blockquote>
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                        <blockquote type="cite">is able to cook half the
                          Turkey which is more than enough for our<br>
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                      <blockquote type="cite">
                        <blockquote type="cite">traditionally glutinous
                          meal.  It is the least efficient of three.
                           However,<br>
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                        <blockquote type="cite">it's smaller size and
                          superior control makes it far more efficient
                          than the<br>
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                          traditional range, gas or electric.<br>
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                        <blockquote type="cite">Benjamin Pratt writes:<br>
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                          <br>
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                        <blockquote type="cite">In my case, with a house
                          that I've tried to tighten-up, but which is<br>
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                          still somewhat leaky--I don't exhaust any of
                          the heat from my gas<br>
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                      <blockquote type="cite">
                        <blockquote type="cite">stove. So it's very
                          efficient--any energy that does not cook the
                          food,<br>
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                        <blockquote type="cite">helps to heat the house.<br>
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                        <blockquote type="cite">My comment:<br>
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                        <blockquote type="cite"><br>
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                        <blockquote type="cite">The inefficient
                          appliance that produces waste heat is only a
                          benefit<br>
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                        <blockquote type="cite">during the heating
                          season.  In the summer it is an additional
                          liability for<br>
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                        <blockquote type="cite">comfort or cooling cost
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