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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>It would be interesting to how borate
mixed with one of the oils would look and react. I believe that the heat from
the buffer would make the borate into a very hard surface.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color:windowtext'> greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org
[mailto:greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>JOHN SALMEN<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, November 03, 2011
9:14 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> joe@KS-Ranch.com; '<st1:PersonName
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Green</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Greenbuilding] tung
oil</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-CA
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Tung oil is
excellent for floors and as close as you can get (or better) to a polyurethane
for durability and moisture resistance. Tung oil has good drying properties so
can be used as a ‘raw’ oil – meaning not polymerized or
treated with heavy metals (as ‘boiled’ linseed oil is
typically). As a raw oil it needs to go in thin coats and numerous coats.
As a raw product it will dry to a matte finish – as a polymerized product
it will have a glossier finish. Once the coats have been built up (4-5)
the topcoat can be buffed to a shinier finish (high speed buffer –
generating a little heat to help oxidize the surface). You can create a
polymerized top finish by simply putting tung oil in a glass jar and putting it
in the sun. A thin coat is what can be put on sparingly, left to soak in for a
bit and then wiped off. A nice thin thin coat can be recoated within 4-6
hours. Avoid heavy liquid coats as they will be a sticky ugly mess.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Initial coats can be
cut with a solvent. Ironically turpentine (same basic solvent as citrus
terpene) is a little more user friendly than citrus solvents (seems more people
develop stronger contact sensitization and reactions to citrus). We use
turpentine. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-CA
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Tung oil is actually
quite toxic as an uncured material and it takes about a week to fully cure
(similar to polyurethanes). Linseed oil is added to commercial mixes of
‘tung type finishes’ but it for economy only. It would weaken the
finish as make it more prone to discolouration (can blacken).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Swis721 BT"><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:80%;
font-family:"Swis721 BT";color:#7F7F7F'>JOHN SALMEN ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN<o:p></o:p></span></font></u></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext'> greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org
[mailto:greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Joe Killian<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> November-03-11 9:29 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
greenbuilding@lists.bioenergylists.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Greenbuilding] tung
oil<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
lang=EN-CA style='font-size:13.5pt'>Don't know about mixing with citrus or
linseed, but I do know that Tung Oil itself gives a shinny finish like a
varnish, not at all like an oil finish (discovered to my dismay after accepting
an offer to refinish a good coffee table with Tung Oil).<br>
<br>
Joe<br>
<br>
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On 11/3/2011 8:10 AM, Gennaro Brooks-Church - Eco Brooklyn wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang=EN-CA style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hello, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
lang=EN-CA style='font-size:12.0pt'>I'm interested in your experience with
mixing tung oil, citrus solvent and linseed oil for floors. My experience is
that linseed leaves more of a shinny coating which sort of replicates typical
varnish. Does anyone have suggestions on floor applications? Just tung and
citrus? Or is putting a little linseed better?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-CA style='font-size:12.0pt'>Thanks!<br
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Gennaro Brooks-Church<br>
Director, Eco Brooklyn Inc.<br>
Cell: 1 347 244 3016 <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">USA</st1:place></st1:country-region><br>
<a href="http://www.EcoBrooklyn.com" target="_blank">www.EcoBrooklyn.com</a><br>
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