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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-CA link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>An example for me is a school renovation I was working on plans for and was wanting reduce to reduce energy consumption (first order condition). For comparison I looked at other ‘energy efficient’ newer schools (better insulated, hvac, lighting, etc.) Ironically the school I was working consumed less energy than any other school. It was a waldorf school which does not use electronic media or computers as part of its curriculum. Lighting levels were also more typically varied and lower. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>That accounted for the use of less energy on a per student and facility size basis but the place could still definitely become more energy efficient in its own right – even though it had achieved the erroneous status as the most ‘energy efficient’ school.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org [mailto:greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Reuben Deumling<br><b>Sent:</b> November-17-11 2:12 PM<br><b>To:</b> Green Building<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Greenbuilding] Fwd: energy savings myths<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Gennaro Brooks-Church - Eco Brooklyn <<a href="mailto:info@ecobrooklyn.com">info@ecobrooklyn.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>... I don't see how the two<br>terms are not interchangeable, meaning a house that uses less energy<br>is more energy efficient and a house that is energy efficient uses<br>less energy.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>see my last post. Not interchangeable. <u><br>Energy efficiency</u> is a second order concept. <u><br>Uses less energy</u> is the first order condition we (ostensibly) are interested in.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>