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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=593061702-13122011><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Mr. Deumling,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=593061702-13122011><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Due to the particular nature of water when it begins to
change state and condenses it very quickly loses energy when released
into the atmosphere. Like coffee in a ceramic mug. When the coffee condenses
into the atmosphere any heat that is included in the moisture (vapor) quickly
dissipates. Hence, heat gain is null for all practical intense and purposes, The
same is true for any moisture laden item when exposed to heat and released into
the atmosphere.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=593061702-13122011><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Mr. Corwyn explains the empirical aspects of this claim very
neatly.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV align=left><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Doug Lamb</FONT></DIV>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B>
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[mailto:greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Tim
Vireo Keating<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 12, 2011 12:32 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
Green Building<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Greenbuilding] firewood moisture content
- a question for Norbertperhaps<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>I'm assuming that the heat 'lost' in the production of the steam is truly
lost for the user only if the steam goes out the flue. If it goes into the room,
wouldn't the steam than give back the heat to the room when the water vapor
cools?</DIV>
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<DIV>tim keating</DIV>
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<DIV>At 9:27 AM -0500 12/12/11, Douglas E Lamb wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT color=#0000ff size=-1 face=Arial>It
produces steam not heat!</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
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face=Arial>Xoix!</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
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face=Arial>Regards,</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT size=-1 face=Arial>Doug
Lamb</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
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face=Arial>614.323.2005</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
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href="mailto:douglaslamb@columbus.rr.com"><FONT size=-1
face=Arial>douglaslamb@columbus.rr.com</FONT></A></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><FONT size=-1 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B>
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[mailto:greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org]<B> On Behalf Of</B>
Reuben Deumling<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 11, 2011 9:57
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Greenbuilding<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Greenbuilding] firewood
moisture content - a question for Norbertperhaps</FONT><BR><FONT size=-1
face=Tahoma></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite">Let us say I have a cord of firewood that
registers 15% moisture content, and a cord that registers 20% moisture, and
one that registers 25%.<BR><BR>I burn the 15% cord and get XY BTUs/lb out of
it.<BR>I burn the 20% cord and almost certainly get fewer BTU/lb out of it,
but how much less usable heat?<BR>And the same for the 25% cord?<BR><BR>Put
more succinctly, what is the penalty for having firewood that is not quite
dry?<BR><BR>Thanks.<BR><BR>Reuben</BLOCKQUOTE>
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