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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=984000819-15012012><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Mr. Sanjay Jain,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2 face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=984000819-15012012><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>After re-reading what I wrote I have to redact my comment
regarding archeological glass and CO2</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=984000819-15012012><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>No, b</FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=984000819-15012012><FONT
color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>uried glass is not the
concern.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=984000819-15012012><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>My bad!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=984000819-15012012><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>What is of concern related to excavation and CO2 is what
happens when the the earth beneath the surface becomes exposed
to atmospheric conditions.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=984000819-15012012><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>What I did not enumerate upon is the
metamorphic alterations of archeological glass in water or
beneath the earth in conjunction with chemical results of CO2. Science
has found them to be minimal.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2 face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=984000819-15012012><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Further more, Glass production is a complex issue in itself,
i.e. (the following are findings form a part of research I
did)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2 face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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size=2 face=Arial>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="mso-ansi-language: EN" lang=EN><FONT face=Calibri><FONT
color=#000000><FONT size=3><SPAN class=984000819-15012012>"</SPAN>The main
global impact factor is the production of CO<SUB>2</SUB> due to the burning of
fossil fuels in the heating of the furnace and production of electricity to
supply the compressors. Typically a ton of glass packed will liberate between
500 and 900 kg of CO<SUB>2</SUB>, assuming a gas fired furnace and coal
fired electricity usage. In areas with predominantly renewable or nuclear
energy, the CO<SUB>2</SUB> released comes only from the conversion of carbonates
to oxides in the ingredients of the glass itself.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns =
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Calibri><FONT
color=#000000><FONT size=3>In all glass, the sodium and potassium oxides are
hygroscopic; therefore, the surface of the glass absorbs moisture from the air.
The absorbed moisture and exposure to carbon dioxide causes the
NaO<SUB>2</SUB> or NaOH and KO<SUB>2</SUB> or KOH to convert to sodium or
potassium carbonate.<SPAN class=984000819-15012012>"
</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></P></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=984000819-15012012><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>I must add that a byproduct of the manufacturing of lead based
glass for flat screen TVs is <STRONG>arsenic</STRONG>. I have direct experience
dealing with this particular condition in glass
production.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=984000819-15012012><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=984000819-15012012><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>More over research surrounding a specific condition
of the adverse effects of exposed organic CO2 can be found in the Link
that follows;</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2 face=Arial>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=984000819-15012012><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>There are (2) extinct volcanic craters filled with water
and they contain hundreds of liters of CO2 and have over time been
responsible for the deaths of many inhabitant of the surrounding
areas; </FONT> </SPAN></DIV></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=984000819-15012012><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial><A
href="http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/06/carbon-dioxide-as-a-volcanic-hazard-at-the-dieng-plateau-and-beyond/">http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/06/carbon-dioxide-as-a-volcanic-hazard-at-the-dieng-plateau-and-beyond/</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=984000819-15012012><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>These areas have recently been evacuated in anticipation of an
eruption of the CO2 gas form the lake.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=984000819-15012012><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=984000819-15012012><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Sorry if I missreped my opinion with confusing facts. I'll
take better care not to jump into the fray so rapidly next
time.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2 face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=984000819-15012012><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>By the way are you aware of the "Green" efforts being forged
in Warwickshire. I'm originally form New Castle and have been getting some bits
and pieces about how things are moving along on the "Green Front" back
home.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Doug Lamb</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT size=2 face=Arial><A
href="mailto:douglaslamb@columbus.rr.com">douglaslamb@columbus.rr.com</A></FONT></DIV>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B>
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[mailto:greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>sanjay jain<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 15, 2012 9:23 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
'Green Building'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Greenbuilding] Yes, but is it Green
?<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman, new york, times, serif; COLOR: #000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN>Beer
(and coke used to) come in Glass bottles.... <BR><BR>></SPAN><FONT color=blue
size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
class=yui_3_2_0_17_1326636932464183>Imagine how much is sitting in a 1000 year
old arch dig site and how long it has been emitting
CO2.<BR><BR></SPAN></FONT><SPAN>Doug, what do you mean buried glass is emitting
CO2? I know it takes a lot of fossil fuel to make glass (my family in India used
to make glass using coal).... but does it continue to
emit?<BR><BR>~sanjay<BR></SPAN><SPAN><BR></SPAN>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Kenn Brown
<kenn2536@centurylink.net><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> 'Green Building'
<greenbuilding@lists.bioenergylists.org>; 'Kat' <molasses@q.com>;
'sanjay jain' <sanjayjainuk@yahoo.co.uk>; 'Corwyn'
<corwyn@midcoast.com>; 'Bob Waldrop' <bwaldrop@cox.net>; 'Alan
Abrams' <alan@abramsdesignbuild.com> <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Saturday, January 14, 2012 8:56
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [Greenbuilding]
Yes, but is it Green ?<BR></FONT></DIV><BR>
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<DIV class=yiv1215648532MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I wondered why the
glass blower in the village near us moved to a location half way to the next
town. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=yiv1215648532MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I suppose that is why.
Believe I will ask. BTW he is closer to me.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Kenn
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Environment Sensitive
Pest Control</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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[mailto:greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Douglas E Lamb<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Saturday, January 14, 2012 2:25
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> ' Green Building ';
'Kat'; 'sanjay jain'; 'Corwyn'; 'Bob Waldrop'; 'Alan Abrams'<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Greenbuilding] Yes, but is it
Green ?</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
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<DIV class=yiv1215648532MsoNormal><FONT color=blue size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">We have produced more
glass emitting sequestered carbon than all the plant life combined on this
planet.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=yiv1215648532MsoNormal><FONT color=blue size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Imagine how much is
sitting in a 1000 year old arch dig site and how long it has been emitting
CO2.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=yiv1215648532MsoNormal><FONT color=blue size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">We moved TV screen
making off shore due in part to the CO2 emissions and arsenic issues
associated in manufacturing.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=yiv1215648532MsoNormal><FONT color=blue size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Let the unsuspecting
sod reap the buck a bay benefits of ending up with crystallized lungs
and veins for a job well done.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=yiv1215648532MsoNormal><FONT color=blue size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">There are (2) glass
blowing storefronts in the city where we live and I'd love to have them
shut down.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=yiv1215648532MsoNormal><FONT color=blue size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Furthermore, finding a
way to rid the area of any residual arsenic ect will be very interesting and
microscopic I might add. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV class=yiv1215648532MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Regards,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=yiv1215648532MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Doug Lamb</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=yiv1215648532MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">614.323.2005</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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[mailto:greenbuilding-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Kat<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, January 12, 2012 3:50
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> sanjay jain; Green
Building<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re:
[Greenbuilding] Yes, but is it Green ?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=yiv1215648532MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3
face="Swis721 BT"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Swis721 BT'; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">The
problem isn't really CO2 but the constant massive input of more
CO2</SPAN></FONT> from the burning of sequestered CO2 (fossil fuels).
Yeasts turning stuff into beer releases no sequestered CO2. I also (not
knowing the process) question the idea that putting bubbles in Coke releases
sequestered CO2.<BR><BR>-Kat<BR><BR>On 1/12/2012 10:19 AM, sanjay jain wrote:
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: white" class=yiv1215648532MsoNormal><FONT color=black
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">>How many Western
mega-building corps would have the nads to put "Sustainable" in their name and
keep a straight face ?<BR><BR>Maybe not in the name... but Coke seems to be
doing a lot of green-washing with their save the polar bears campaign with
WWF.<BR><BR>Given that Coke's main product is a greenhouse gas "Carbon Dioxide"
it's somewhat ironic that they try to get people to believe they care about the
environment.<BR><BR>Having said that, I assume their CO2 gas comes from beer, so
perhaps beer drinkers are more at
fault!<BR><BR>~sanjay</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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